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electrical:12v:intro [2019/05/07 23:17]
frater_secessus [sources of house power]
electrical:12v:intro [2019/12/06 23:03]
frater_secessus [things you can run in the van]
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   * [[electrical:12v:chassis power|chassis power]] is the electrical system in the vehicle itself.   Starter, alternator, headlights, etc.     * [[electrical:12v:chassis power|chassis power]] is the electrical system in the vehicle itself.   Starter, alternator, headlights, etc.  
  
 +The two are usually separate systems, except when actively [[electrical:12v:alternator|charging from the alternator]].((or doing something exotic like [[electrical:solar:shallow_cycling|shallow cycling]]))
 +
 +===== what you can run in the van =====
 +
 +Things that are run off the van's power are called [[electrical:12v:loads|loads]].  Unlike a wall socket where you can run pretty much anything you want, using power you make yourself is a series of choices and compromises.   Some things are easy to run off off-grid;  some things are harder and require more infrastructure, planning, and money. 
 +
 +  * easy/cheap to run
 +      * phone and tablet charging
 +      * [[electrical:12v:laptop|laptop]] charging/use if you do it when the sun is shining
 +      * ventilation
 +  * harder and more expensive to run
 +      * laptop charging/use if you do it a night
 +  * hard to run
 +      * heating or cooking with electricity, which is why we use propane
 +      * [[hvac:solar_ac|air conditioning]], which is why we go where it is cooler
 +      * electric coffee makers, which is why we use propane((see the pattern?))
 ===== sources of house power ===== ===== sources of house power =====
  
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 | [[electrical:generator|generator]]        | can make 1000w+ of 120v \\ can run for days \\ inverter models are quieter                                                                    | can be expensive ($1000+) \\ maintenance \\ needs to be stored when not in use\\ noisy \\ not allowed in some areas/times                                                                              | | [[electrical:generator|generator]]        | can make 1000w+ of 120v \\ can run for days \\ inverter models are quieter                                                                    | can be expensive ($1000+) \\ maintenance \\ needs to be stored when not in use\\ noisy \\ not allowed in some areas/times                                                                              |
  
-[[electrical:12v:alt_and_solar|Alternator & solar charging]] enhance each other when used together.  The investment in solar can be significantly reduced.+[[electrical:12v:alt_and_solar|Alternator & solar charging]] enhance each other when used together.  Adding alternator charging to solar can significantly reduce [[electrical:solar:sizing|the amount of solar required]] to meet your needs.
  
 Note:  So-called [[lifestyle:faq_solar_generator|solar generators]] **do not generate power**:  they are battery banks, usually AGM or lithium.  See below.  Note:  So-called [[lifestyle:faq_solar_generator|solar generators]] **do not generate power**:  they are battery banks, usually AGM or lithium.  See below. 
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 | [[electrical:12v:deep_cycle_battery#flooded_lead_acid|Flooded lead-acid]] (FLA)  | cheapest per Ah \\ most tolerant of abuse                                                                                                                  | lowest current throughput \\ maintenance ("watering") required \\ can only use 50% of rated capacity((or longevity suffers))  | | [[electrical:12v:deep_cycle_battery#flooded_lead_acid|Flooded lead-acid]] (FLA)  | cheapest per Ah \\ most tolerant of abuse                                                                                                                  | lowest current throughput \\ maintenance ("watering") required \\ can only use 50% of rated capacity((or longevity suffers))  |
-| [[electrical:12v:deep_cycle_battery#agm|Sealed lead-acid]] (SLA, AGM)            | able to charge/discharge more current than FLA                                                                                                             | more expensive per Ah((~2x the price of FLA)) \\ cannot check or replace electrolyte                                          | +| [[electrical:12v:deep_cycle_battery#agm|Sealed lead-acid]] (SLA, AGM)            | able to charge/discharge more current than FLA\\ no maintenance required                                                                                   | more expensive per Ah((~2x the price of FLA)) \\ cannot check or replace electrolyte                                          | 
-| [[electrical:12v:deep_cycle_battery#lifepo4|LiFePO4 (LFP) lithium]]              | very close to normal 12v ranges \\ available as "drop-in" replacements for lead-acid\\ current throughput \\ can be more deeply discharged than lead-acid  | most expensive upfront per Ah\\ cannot be charged in freezing temperatures                                                                                               +| [[electrical:12v:deep_cycle_battery#lifepo4|LiFePO4 (LFP) lithium]]              | very close to normal 12v ranges \\ available as "drop-in" replacements for lead-acid\\ current throughput \\ can be more deeply discharged than lead-acid  | most expensive upfront per Ah\\ cannot be charged in freezing temperatures                                                    
-| [[electrical:12v:deep_cycle_battery#non-lifepo4_lithium-ion|Non-LFP lithium]]    | cheaper than LFP per Ah \\ current throughput                                                                                                                     | thermal runaway \\ voltage not well-suited for 12v systems                                                                    |+| [[electrical:12v:deep_cycle_battery#non-lifepo4_lithium-ion|Non-LFP lithium]]    | cheaper than LFP per Ah \\ current throughput                                                                                                              | thermal runaway \\ voltage not well-suited for 12v systems                                                                    |
  
 The battery bank is sized to meet your [[electrical:solar:gentle_intro#daily_power_needs|daily power needs]] and as well as any extra margin you might like. The battery bank is sized to meet your [[electrical:solar:gentle_intro#daily_power_needs|daily power needs]] and as well as any extra margin you might like.
electrical/12v/intro.txt · Last modified: 2024/02/21 13:44 by frater_secessus