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food:cooking:excess_power [2022/05/18 11:22]
frater_secessus [AC (inverter)] FIKNEE |
food:cooking:excess_power [2023/02/22 15:53]
frater_secessus [AC (inverter)] |
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| ==== AC (inverter) ==== | ==== AC (inverter) ==== |
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| | Analog cooking appliances (knobs, not electronics) run fine off inexpensive MSW [[electrical:inverter|inverters]]. |
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| | * Normal sized [[food:cooking:crockpot|crock pots]] typically take 125w-200w on HI and half that value on LO. |
| | * **mini rice cookers**. Normal rice cookers run ~300w but some of the smaller travel ones use less. Example: [[https://amzn.to/3h7bt03|Dash 200w 1L travel rice cooker]] (**200w**). |
| | * immersion (loop) heaters for AC are typically 300w although NOS((new old stock)) versions can be found for 200w. Example: [[https://amzn.to/3f0RRI1|Norpro 559 immersion heater]]. (300w) |
| | * [[https://amzn.to/3rfwgC2|this two-burner hotplate]] has a 600w coil on one side that may be usable in a van. |
| | * small 120vac lunchboxes, as for bento. Example: [[https://amzn.to/3lk9Gp8|FIKNEE lunchbox heater]], rated 200w and [[https://vanlivingforum.com/threads/japanese-electric-lunchbox.46157/|used by Psyckosama]]. |
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| | === crockpot vs instant pot === |
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| [[https://amzn.to/3LmlZMs|Instant Pots]] are becoming increasingly common as some [[electrical:12v:intro|vandweller power systems]] become beefier. While convenient, they are effectively electric [[food:cooking:cookware#pressure_cookers|pressure cookers]] + [[food:cooking:crockpot|crockpots]], both of which are much less demanding of power.((traditional pressure cookers are heated on the [[food:cooking:stoves|stove]])) | [[https://amzn.to/3LmlZMs|Instant Pots]] are becoming increasingly common as some [[electrical:12v:intro|vandweller power systems]] become beefier. While convenient, they are effectively electric [[food:cooking:cookware#pressure_cookers|pressure cookers]] + [[food:cooking:crockpot|crockpots]], both of which are much less demanding of power.((traditional pressure cookers are heated on the [[food:cooking:stoves|stove]])) |
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| . See below for alternatives. | |
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| * Normal sized [[food:cooking:crockpot|crock pots]] typically take 125w-200w on HI and half that value on LO. | |
| * **mini rice cookers**. Normal rice cookers run ~300w but some of the smaller travel ones use less. Example: [[https://amzn.to/3h7bt03|Dash 200w 1L travel rice cooker]] (**200w**). | |
| * immersion (loop) heaters for AC are typically 300w although NOS((new old stock)) versions can be found for 200w. Example: [[https://amzn.to/3f0RRI1|Norpro 559 immersion heater]]. (300w) | |
| * [[https://amzn.to/3rfwgC2|this two-burner hotplate]] has a 600w coil on one side that may be usable in a van. | |
| * small 120vac lunchboxes, as for bento. Example: [[https://amzn.to/3lk9Gp8|FIKNEE lunchbox heater]], rated 200w and [[https://vanlivingforum.com/threads/japanese-electric-lunchbox.46157/|used by Psyckosama]]. | |
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| === crockpot vs instant pot === | |
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| also see [[https://vanlivingforum.com/threads/any-thoughts-on-crock-pots.42193/post-558817|this post]] | also see [[https://vanlivingforum.com/threads/any-thoughts-on-crock-pots.42193/post-558817|this post]] |
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| ==== breaking the 10A barrier ==== | |
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| [[electrical:12v:ports|Ciggy outlet]] power is typically limited to 10A (~120w). | === Instant Pot Duo Mini === |
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| If you wanted to extract more power from the alternator you could wire in [[electrical:12v:alternator|an isolator]] (plain solenoid or VSR). Instead of feeding an auxilliary battery this isolator would be used to pull more current into the living area. You could run 12v loads directly, or attach an inverter's input wires to the isolator's outputs.((positive to isolator, negative to chassis ground)) | The smallest (3qt) and lowest-powered (700w) IP will likely be the best fit for those who want to try such cookers. It is reported to run correctly off both 1000w inverters, both MSW and PSW.((PSW might be better for efficiency and timer accuracy -- secessus)) |
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| [[electrical:12v:alternator#isolator_without_a_house_battery|further info]] | |
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| | The included 3qt cooking pot is((https://www.paintthekitchenred.com/instant-pot-dimensions/#innerpot)) |
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| | * 7.8'' x 5'' (outer, ie what cooking implements can fit inside the IP |
| | * 7'' x 4.75'' (inner, what can fit inside the IP's internal cooking pot) |
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| | ==== breaking the 10A barrier ==== |
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| | see [[electrical:12v:alternator#isolator_without_a_house_battery|this article]] |
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