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food:cooking:excess_power [2023/02/06 12:42]
frater_secessus [breaking the 10A barrier] 		food:cooking:excess_power [2023/04/26 19:17]
frater_secessus [DC] immersion tips
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   * **heated mugs** can be used to keep beverages hot, or heat small amounts of water for tea, coffee.  Warm canned soup, etc.     Example:  [[https://amzn.to/3tyO9Lj|Wagan heated mug]] (12v/**24w**).   * **heated mugs** can be used to keep beverages hot, or heat small amounts of water for tea, coffee.  Warm canned soup, etc.     Example:  [[https://amzn.to/3tyO9Lj|Wagan heated mug]] (12v/**24w**).
   * **mini rice cookers**.  Example:  [[https://amzn.to/3d3AYMS|mini rice cooker]] (12v/**100w**).  Recommended by [[https://www.reddit.com/r/urbancarlivingcooking/comments/nddilf/12v_rice_cooker_that_i_use_for_all_my_meals/|dannydevitosmgnmdong]].  See also [[https://www.reddit.com/r/urbancarlivingcooking/|/r/urbancarlivingcooking]].   * **mini rice cookers**.  Example:  [[https://amzn.to/3d3AYMS|mini rice cooker]] (12v/**100w**).  Recommended by [[https://www.reddit.com/r/urbancarlivingcooking/comments/nddilf/12v_rice_cooker_that_i_use_for_all_my_meals/|dannydevitosmgnmdong]].  See also [[https://www.reddit.com/r/urbancarlivingcooking/|/r/urbancarlivingcooking]].
-  * **immersion (loop) heaters** for DC are typically 150w.  Example: [[https://amzn.to/3xUKHh6|RoadPro beverage heater]] (**138w**).+  * **immersion (loop) heaters** for DC are typically 150w.  Example: [[https://amzn.to/3xUKHh6|RoadPro beverage heater]] (**138w**). Caveats: 
 +    * heat only water with them;  anything else baked on is extremely difficult to clean 
 +    * carry extra fuses in case you blow the ciggy port fuse 
 +    * unplug before removal from water to avoid overheating the element 
 +    * have a safe place planned to set them down //before// heating; they will be very hot and can melt/burn surfaces after removal from the water
  
  
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 Analog cooking appliances (knobs, not electronics) run fine off inexpensive MSW [[electrical:inverter|inverters]].  Analog cooking appliances (knobs, not electronics) run fine off inexpensive MSW [[electrical:inverter|inverters]]. 
  
-  * Normal sized [[food:cooking:crockpot|crock pots]] typically take 125w-200w on HI and half that value on LO.  +  * [[food:cooking:crockpot|crock pots]] typically take 125w-200w on HI and half that value on LO.   
 +  * [[food:cooking:instantpot|Instant Pots]] run 700w to 1200w, depending on size
   * **mini rice cookers**.  Normal rice cookers run ~300w but some of the smaller travel ones use less.  Example:  [[https://amzn.to/3h7bt03|Dash 200w 1L travel rice cooker]] (**200w**).   * **mini rice cookers**.  Normal rice cookers run ~300w but some of the smaller travel ones use less.  Example:  [[https://amzn.to/3h7bt03|Dash 200w 1L travel rice cooker]] (**200w**).
   * immersion (loop) heaters for AC are typically 300w although NOS((new old stock)) versions can be found for 200w.  Example:  [[https://amzn.to/3f0RRI1|Norpro 559 immersion heater]]. (300w)   * immersion (loop) heaters for AC are typically 300w although NOS((new old stock)) versions can be found for 200w.  Example:  [[https://amzn.to/3f0RRI1|Norpro 559 immersion heater]]. (300w)
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 === crockpot vs instant pot === === crockpot vs instant pot ===
  
 +There are some major ways the two differ:
  
-[[https://amzn.to/3LmlZMs|Instant Pots]] are becoming increasingly common as some [[electrical:12v:intro|vandweller power systems]] become beefier. While convenient, they are effectively electric [[food:cooking:cookware#pressure_cookers|pressure cookers]] + [[food:cooking:crockpot|crockpots]], both of which are much less demanding of power.((traditional pressure cookers are heated on the [[food:cooking:stoves|stove]]))+  * cost - used crockpots are cheap in thrift stores 
 +  * current - crockpots demand much less current, which may also increase the cost of wiring, batteries, and [[electrical:inverter|inverter]], but... 
 +  * energy use - instant pots will generally use far fewer watt-hours to took the same meal((due to better insulation, temperature control, and pressure cooking))
  
-Note:  instant pots typically require more power than most vehicle-dwellers have on tap, but [[https://www.reddit.com/r/vandwellers/comments/7nyvos/instant_pot_yay_or_nay/ds5ntc6/|it can be done]] if one understands the issues. 
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-> The [[https://amzn.to/3kyxFjw|3qt model (mini)]]... draws less wattage at 700W versus 1,000W for [[https://amzn.to/3ystbjj|the 6qt]] and 1,200W for [[https://amzn.to/3sQDxbC|the 8qt]]. -- loveyourrv((https://www.loveyourrv.com/instant-pot-boondocking-power-draw/)) {[[https://amzn.to/3jtf9tT|the 10qt]] is [[https://www.pressurecookingtoday.com/instant-pot-duo-nova-review/|1,440w]] -- secessus} 
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-Instant Pot advantages: 
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-  * much faster cooking times possible 
-  * temperature control (heating element runs as needed)for more accurate cooking and reduce power consumption 
-  * better insulation will likely reduce power consumption 
-  * pressurized modes will result in consistent cooking at high altitude 
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-Crockpot advantages:  
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-  * much lower cost, particularly if bought used at thrift stores 
-  * much lower current demand (150w vs 1000w), which means a crock can run on components that cost 1/6th as much 
-  * analog crocks (physical controls, no digital components)  run happily on inexpensive [[electrical:inverter#msw_and_electronics|MSW inverters]] 
  
 also see [[https://vanlivingforum.com/threads/any-thoughts-on-crock-pots.42193/post-558817|this post]] also see [[https://vanlivingforum.com/threads/any-thoughts-on-crock-pots.42193/post-558817|this post]]
food/cooking/excess_power.txt · Last modified: 2024/04/05 19:17 by frater_secessus

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