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food:refrigeration [2021/07/04 18:43]
frater_secessus [compressor refrigeration]
food:refrigeration [2021/10/14 12:26]
frater_secessus [Peltier refrigeration]
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 12v compressor refrigerators become the standard way to chill food in [[electrical:solar|solar]]-equipped vans.  The main types of compressor fridges common in 'dwelling setups are: 12v compressor refrigerators become the standard way to chill food in [[electrical:solar|solar]]-equipped vans.  The main types of compressor fridges common in 'dwelling setups are:
-  * [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danfoss_Compressors_GmbH|Danfoss]]-style compressor -- Now made by Secop, these compressors have a reputation for quality.  Brands include:+ 
 +  * [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danfoss_Compressors_GmbH|Danfoss]]-style compressor -- Now made by **Secop**, these compressors have a reputation for quality.  Brands include:
      * [[https://goo.gl/RLV9jM|Vitrifrigo]] used by Sternwake((http://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/Thread-Ventilation-Fan-Vent-ThinkTank-Calling-out-SternWake?pid=87077#pid87077))      * [[https://goo.gl/RLV9jM|Vitrifrigo]] used by Sternwake((http://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/Thread-Ventilation-Fan-Vent-ThinkTank-Calling-out-SternWake?pid=87077#pid87077))
      * [[http://amzn.to/2rNTuiW|ARB]] used by Arctic Cat((http://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/Thread-Best-Fridge-for-the-Money?pid=202485#pid202485))      * [[http://amzn.to/2rNTuiW|ARB]] used by Arctic Cat((http://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/Thread-Best-Fridge-for-the-Money?pid=202485#pid202485))
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      * Indel B 50-liter used by corttt((http://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/Thread-Best-Fridge-for-the-Money?pid=202913#pid202913))      * Indel B 50-liter used by corttt((http://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/Thread-Best-Fridge-for-the-Money?pid=202913#pid202913))
      * Dometic used by Mobilesport((http://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/Thread-Best-Fridge-for-the-Money?pid=199262#pid199262))      * Dometic used by Mobilesport((http://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/Thread-Best-Fridge-for-the-Money?pid=199262#pid199262))
 +    * [[https://amzn.to/3xjrrJt|Iceco VL45]] recommended by doc-ketamine((https://www.reddit.com/r/overlanding/comments/o8orti/newbie_question_on_jackery_bluetti_portable_power/h37nb5r/)).  Measured 85w when compressor is running
 +    * [[https://amzn.to/3jHCrwp|Iceco JP50]] recommended by panchulio.((https://www.reddit.com/r/overlanding/comments/o8orti/newbie_question_on_jackery_bluetti_portable_power/h36aiad/))
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   * [[http://www.sawafuji.co.jp/english/tech/shindou.html|Sawafuji]]-style compressor -- this compressor has one moving part and is energy efficient with low startup current.((http://www.sawafuji.co.jp/english/tech/shindou.html)) This kind of fridge is least likely to be damaged by rough use in the outback.  Downsides:  initial expense, the oscillating piston can be noisy. Brands include   * [[http://www.sawafuji.co.jp/english/tech/shindou.html|Sawafuji]]-style compressor -- this compressor has one moving part and is energy efficient with low startup current.((http://www.sawafuji.co.jp/english/tech/shindou.html)) This kind of fridge is least likely to be damaged by rough use in the outback.  Downsides:  initial expense, the oscillating piston can be noisy. Brands include
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     * Engel MT45 used by goldendinnerplate((https://www.reddit.com/r/overlanding/comments/o8orti/newbie_question_on_jackery_bluetti_portable_power/h39l92r/))     * Engel MT45 used by goldendinnerplate((https://www.reddit.com/r/overlanding/comments/o8orti/newbie_question_on_jackery_bluetti_portable_power/h39l92r/))
    
-  * SECOP compressor 
-    * [[https://amzn.to/3xjrrJt|Iceco VL45]] recommended by doc-ketamine((https://www.reddit.com/r/overlanding/comments/o8orti/newbie_question_on_jackery_bluetti_portable_power/h37nb5r/)).  Measured 85w when compressor is running 
-    * [[https://amzn.to/3jHCrwp|Iceco JP50]] recommended by panchulio.((https://www.reddit.com/r/overlanding/comments/o8orti/newbie_question_on_jackery_bluetti_portable_power/h36aiad/)) 
  
   * non-Danfoss-style compressor brands include:   * non-Danfoss-style compressor brands include:
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 Peltier cooling doesn't get used much in solar setups because it uses a lot of power and does so 100% of the time.  A typical Peltier cooler might run 4-5A continuously whereas a compressor cooler might run 2A 30% of the time and turn off the rest of the time. The 100% duty cycle issue can be alleviated by wiring in [[https://amzn.to/2WJg4tu|a 12v thermostat]].((assuming it would ever get cold enough to shut off. )) Peltier cooling doesn't get used much in solar setups because it uses a lot of power and does so 100% of the time.  A typical Peltier cooler might run 4-5A continuously whereas a compressor cooler might run 2A 30% of the time and turn off the rest of the time. The 100% duty cycle issue can be alleviated by wiring in [[https://amzn.to/2WJg4tu|a 12v thermostat]].((assuming it would ever get cold enough to shut off. ))
  
-This kind of device cools to ~30-40F below ambient, which may not be a problem if the ambient is 80F or less.+This kind of device cools to ~30-40F below ambient, which may not be a problem if the ambient is 80F or less.  For best results avoid putting hot or even warmer-than-ambient items in the cooler.  Use a fan on the item until it is room temp before placing in cooler.  
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 +Most lack thermostats and so can accidentally freeze food if ambient temps are low enough.   
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 +Read the manual before purchase to see how long it can be run at a stretch;  fans are a common failure point when run 24/7.
  
-For best results avoid putting hot or even warmer-than-ambient items in the cooler.  Use a fan on the item until it is room temp before placing in cooler.  
  
 === possible use cases === === possible use cases ===
food/refrigeration.txt · Last modified: 2024/05/09 17:07 by frater_secessus