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food:refrigeration [2021/07/04 18:43] frater_secessus [compressor refrigeration] |
food:refrigeration [2021/10/14 12:29] frater_secessus [Peltier refrigeration] |
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12v compressor refrigerators become the standard way to chill food in [[electrical:solar|solar]]-equipped vans. The main types of compressor fridges common in 'dwelling setups are: | 12v compressor refrigerators become the standard way to chill food in [[electrical:solar|solar]]-equipped vans. The main types of compressor fridges common in 'dwelling setups are: |
* [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danfoss_Compressors_GmbH|Danfoss]]-style compressor -- Now made by Secop, these compressors have a reputation for quality. Brands include: | |
| * [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danfoss_Compressors_GmbH|Danfoss]]-style compressor -- Now made by **Secop**, these compressors have a reputation for quality. Brands include: |
* [[https://goo.gl/RLV9jM|Vitrifrigo]] used by Sternwake((http://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/Thread-Ventilation-Fan-Vent-ThinkTank-Calling-out-SternWake?pid=87077#pid87077)) | * [[https://goo.gl/RLV9jM|Vitrifrigo]] used by Sternwake((http://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/Thread-Ventilation-Fan-Vent-ThinkTank-Calling-out-SternWake?pid=87077#pid87077)) |
* [[http://amzn.to/2rNTuiW|ARB]] used by Arctic Cat((http://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/Thread-Best-Fridge-for-the-Money?pid=202485#pid202485)) | * [[http://amzn.to/2rNTuiW|ARB]] used by Arctic Cat((http://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/Thread-Best-Fridge-for-the-Money?pid=202485#pid202485)) |
* Indel B 50-liter used by corttt((http://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/Thread-Best-Fridge-for-the-Money?pid=202913#pid202913)) | * Indel B 50-liter used by corttt((http://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/Thread-Best-Fridge-for-the-Money?pid=202913#pid202913)) |
* Dometic used by Mobilesport((http://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/Thread-Best-Fridge-for-the-Money?pid=199262#pid199262)) | * Dometic used by Mobilesport((http://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/Thread-Best-Fridge-for-the-Money?pid=199262#pid199262)) |
| * [[https://amzn.to/3xjrrJt|Iceco VL45]] recommended by doc-ketamine((https://www.reddit.com/r/overlanding/comments/o8orti/newbie_question_on_jackery_bluetti_portable_power/h37nb5r/)). Measured 85w when compressor is running |
| * [[https://amzn.to/3jHCrwp|Iceco JP50]] recommended by panchulio.((https://www.reddit.com/r/overlanding/comments/o8orti/newbie_question_on_jackery_bluetti_portable_power/h36aiad/)) |
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* [[http://www.sawafuji.co.jp/english/tech/shindou.html|Sawafuji]]-style compressor -- this compressor has one moving part and is energy efficient with low startup current.((http://www.sawafuji.co.jp/english/tech/shindou.html)) This kind of fridge is least likely to be damaged by rough use in the outback. Downsides: initial expense, the oscillating piston can be noisy. Brands include | * [[http://www.sawafuji.co.jp/english/tech/shindou.html|Sawafuji]]-style compressor -- this compressor has one moving part and is energy efficient with low startup current.((http://www.sawafuji.co.jp/english/tech/shindou.html)) This kind of fridge is least likely to be damaged by rough use in the outback. Downsides: initial expense, the oscillating piston can be noisy. Brands include |
* Engel MT45 used by goldendinnerplate((https://www.reddit.com/r/overlanding/comments/o8orti/newbie_question_on_jackery_bluetti_portable_power/h39l92r/)) | * Engel MT45 used by goldendinnerplate((https://www.reddit.com/r/overlanding/comments/o8orti/newbie_question_on_jackery_bluetti_portable_power/h39l92r/)) |
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* SECOP compressor | |
* [[https://amzn.to/3xjrrJt|Iceco VL45]] recommended by doc-ketamine((https://www.reddit.com/r/overlanding/comments/o8orti/newbie_question_on_jackery_bluetti_portable_power/h37nb5r/)). Measured 85w when compressor is running | |
* [[https://amzn.to/3jHCrwp|Iceco JP50]] recommended by panchulio.((https://www.reddit.com/r/overlanding/comments/o8orti/newbie_question_on_jackery_bluetti_portable_power/h36aiad/)) | |
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* non-Danfoss-style compressor brands include: | * non-Danfoss-style compressor brands include: |
==== Peltier refrigeration ==== | ==== Peltier refrigeration ==== |
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Peltier cooling doesn't get used much in solar setups because it uses a lot of power and does so 100% of the time. A typical Peltier cooler might run 4-5A continuously whereas a compressor cooler might run 2A 30% of the time and turn off the rest of the time. The 100% duty cycle issue can be alleviated by wiring in [[https://amzn.to/2WJg4tu|a 12v thermostat]].((assuming it would ever get cold enough to shut off. )) | Peltier cooling doesn't get used much in solar setups because it uses a lot of power and does so 100% of the time. A typical Peltier cooler might run 4-5A continuously whereas a compressor cooler might run 5A 30% of the time and turn off the rest of the time. The 100% duty cycle issue can be alleviated by wiring in [[https://amzn.to/2WJg4tu|a 12v thermostat]].((assuming it would ever get cold enough to shut off. )) |
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| This kind of device cools to ~30-40F below ambient, which may not be a problem if the ambient is 80F or less. For best results avoid putting hot or even warmer-than-ambient items in the cooler. Use a fan on the item until it is room temp before placing in cooler. |
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| Most lack thermostats and so can accidentally freeze food if ambient temps are low enough. |
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This kind of device cools to ~30-40F below ambient, which may not be a problem if the ambient is 80F or less. | Read the manual before purchase to see how long it can be run at a stretch; fans are a common failure point when run 24/7. |
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For best results avoid putting hot or even warmer-than-ambient items in the cooler. Use a fan on the item until it is room temp before placing in cooler. | |
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=== possible use cases === | === possible use cases === |