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--- hvac:heating [2020/01/19 14:10]
frater_secessus [contact heating]
+++ hvac:heating [2020/01/19 16:55]
frater_secessus [candle]
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 The most common way to heat off-grid is with open flame propane, and the most common non-OEM propane heater for RVers is the [[http://amzn.to/2gE6pB7|Mr.Heater Buddy]] series.
-  * [[http://amzn.to/2pPW7C1|Little Buddy]] - 3800btu.  A small round unit that mounts directly to a 1# propane bottle.  It's rather tall -- compare the size of the 1# propane bottle it sits on.
+  * [[http://amzn.to/2pPW7C1|Little Buddy]] - 3800btu.((1113w equivalent))  A small round unit that mounts directly to a 1# propane bottle.  It's rather tall -- compare the size of the 1# propane bottle it sits on.
-  * [[http://amzn.to/2qdlzCO|Buddy]] - 4000btu, 9000btu.  This is the most common Buddy heater. Sometimes called Portable Buddy by the manufacturer.((http://amzn.to/2pnEXZS))
+  * [[http://amzn.to/2qdlzCO|Buddy]] - 4000btu((1172w equivalent)), 9000btu((2677w equivalent)).  This is the most common Buddy heater. Sometimes called Portable Buddy by the manufacturer.((http://amzn.to/2pnEXZS))
   * [[http://amzn.to/2p9A6zk|Big Buddy]] - 400btu, 9000btu, 18,000btu.  Oversized for most camper applications.
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 [[http://amzn.to/2gE3KqV|{{https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51dMW-hZ0nL._AC_US160_.jpg?75 }}]]
-The other major propane heater is the [[http://amzn.to/2fXwUCe|Camco Olympian Wave heater]] catalytic design, particularly the 3 (3k BTU) and 6 (6k BTU).  Catalytic heaters make more efficient use of propane which should reduce costs and humidity.  Catalytic heaters require extra care so their catalyzing surfaces don't get contaminated by dust or other particles.  Camco says users should  cover the heater when not in use, and that the catalytic pad may have to be replaced if contaminated or after a set number of years.((http://vagabonders-supreme.net/Wave_Catalytic_User_Guide.pdf))
+The other major propane heater is the [[http://amzn.to/2fXwUCe|Camco Olympian Wave heater]] catalytic design, particularly the 3 (3k BTU((880w equivalent))) and 6 (6k BTU((1760w equivalent))).  Catalytic heaters make more efficient use of propane which should reduce costs and humidity.  Catalytic heaters require extra care so their catalyzing surfaces don't get contaminated by dust or other particles.  Camco says users should  cover the heater when not in use, and that the catalytic pad may have to be replaced if contaminated or after a set number of years.((http://vagabonders-supreme.net/Wave_Catalytic_User_Guide.pdf))
 [[https://amzn.to/3am0vxM|{{ https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71rDsgejreL._AC_UL320_ML3_.jpg?75}}]]Now discontinued, Coleman made smallish propane catalytic heaters:((ebay links to used ones included below))
-  * the upright [[https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?LH_CAds=&_ex_kw=&_fpos=&_fspt=1&_mPrRngCbx=1&_nkw=coleman+sportcat&_sacat=&_sadis=&_sop=12&_udhi=&_udlo=&_fosrp=1|SportCat]] (1,500 btu)
+  * the upright [[https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?LH_CAds=&_ex_kw=&_fpos=&_fspt=1&_mPrRngCbx=1&_nkw=coleman+sportcat&_sacat=&_sadis=&_sop=12&_udhi=&_udlo=&_fosrp=1|SportCat]] (1,500 btu)((440w equivalent))
   * the tilted [[https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?LH_CAds=&_ex_kw=&_fpos=&_fspt=1&_mPrRngCbx=1&_nkw=coleman+blackcat&_sacat=&_sadis=&_sop=12&_udhi=&_udlo=&_fosrp=1|BlackCat]] (3,000 btu), etc.  Note: a [[https://amzn.to/3am0vxM|clone of the sportcat]] has appeared.
   * fan-forced [[https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?LH_CAds=&_ex_kw=&_fpos=&_fspt=1&_mPrRngCbx=1&_nkw=coleman+procat&_sacat=&_sadis=&_sop=12&_udhi=&_udlo=&_fosrp=1|ProCat]] (3,000 btu)
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 === catalytic ===
-{{ https://i.ebayimg.com/thumbs/images/g/RbMAAOSw-0BeFJaj/s-l225.jpg}}Catalytic heaters were common in the 60s-70s and can be found at garage sales, thrift shops, or ebay.
+{{ https://i.ebayimg.com/thumbs/images/g/RbMAAOSw-0BeFJaj/s-l225.jpg}}Catalytic heaters were common in the 60s-70s and can be found at garage sales, thrift shops, or ebay. [[https://www.campingforums.com/forum/showthread.php?6373-Easy-to-fix-old-Coleman-catalytic-heaters&p=31193&viewfull=1#post31193|Repair instructions]].
   * dome-shaped heaters like the 513-700 (3,000-5,000 btu) pictured here, 512A708 (3500 btu, [[https://i.ebayimg.com/thumbs/images/g/IhgAAOSwBm9eHMq~/s-l225.jpg|pic]], [[http://www.oldtowncoleman.com/manuals/512A.pdf|manual]])
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 === flame ===
+==== candle ====
+[[https://amzn.to/37agHAg|{{ https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91IkqAoxkzL._AC_UL320_ML3_.jpg?75}}]]Candles are an oft-discussed source of heat.  I typical candle will put out something like 240btu((70w equivalent)) of heat. They also give off light and can be used [[https://amzn.to/37agHAg|as a lantern]].
+Downsides include soot, tippiness, and lead content in some wicks.  Using candles in a "lantern" fixture may be safer.
+The most common candle lantern is the [[https://amzn.to/2TDFqcd|UCO lantern]], which uses [[https://amzn.to/2v4QTHC|a proprietary candle]] which UCO says produces 450 btu.  They make tealight versions in [[https://amzn.to/38eyNkK|non-collapsible mini]] and a collapsible micro sizes.

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