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hvac:heating [2020/01/19 14:30] frater_secessus [white gas heating] |
hvac:heating [2021/03/11 10:30] frater_secessus [candle] |
Many RVers [[camping:snowbirding|snowbird]] to get away from temperature extremes, but others enjoy the cold or sometimes get caught in it. The method one uses for staying warm will depend on whether or not one has "[[camping:hookup|hookups]]" (grid connection). | Many RVers [[camping:snowbirding|snowbird]] to get away from temperature extremes, but others enjoy the cold or sometimes get caught in it. The method one uses for staying warm will depend on whether or not one has "[[camping:hookup|hookups]]" (grid connection). |
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Heads up: **heating an RV from batteries/solar is impractical**.((with the exception of [[hvac:heating#contact_heating|contact heating]])) | TL;DR: **heating an RV from batteries/solar is impractical**.((with the exception of [[hvac:heating#contact_heating|contact heating]])) We generally use propane. |
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> "Fear of propane will be expensive." -- Sternwake((https://vandwellerforum.com/thread-3260-post-55086.html#pid55086)) | > "Fear of propane will be expensive." -- Sternwake((https://vandwellerforum.com/thread-3260-post-55086.html#pid55086)) |
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=== catalytic === | === catalytic === |
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| Catalytic heaters are called that because they catalyse (degrade with chemistry and temperature) fuel rather than burn it with flame. Benefits include somewhat higher efficiency (using less fuel, creating less water vapor) and a softer, less direct heat less likely to catch things on fire. |
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[[https://amzn.to/3am0vxM|{{ https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71rDsgejreL._AC_UL320_ML3_.jpg?75}}]]Now discontinued, Coleman made smallish propane catalytic heaters:((ebay links to used ones included below)) | [[https://amzn.to/3am0vxM|{{ https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71rDsgejreL._AC_UL320_ML3_.jpg?75}}]]Now discontinued, Coleman made smallish propane catalytic heaters:((ebay links to used ones included below)) |
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* the upright [[https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?LH_CAds=&_ex_kw=&_fpos=&_fspt=1&_mPrRngCbx=1&_nkw=coleman+sportcat&_sacat=&_sadis=&_sop=12&_udhi=&_udlo=&_fosrp=1|SportCat]] (1,500 btu)((440w equivalent)) | * the upright [[http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5575146719&toolid=10001&campid=5338647285&customid=&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3FLH_CAds%3D%26_ex_kw%3D%26_fpos%3D%26_fspt%3D1%26_mPrRngCbx%3D1%26_nkw%3Dcoleman%2Bsportcat%26_sacat%3D%26_sadis%3D%26_sop%3D12%26_udhi%3D%26_udlo%3D%26_fosrp%3D1|SportCat]] (1,500 btu)((440w equivalent)) |
* the tilted [[https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?LH_CAds=&_ex_kw=&_fpos=&_fspt=1&_mPrRngCbx=1&_nkw=coleman+blackcat&_sacat=&_sadis=&_sop=12&_udhi=&_udlo=&_fosrp=1|BlackCat]] (3,000 btu), etc. Note: a [[https://amzn.to/3am0vxM|clone of the sportcat]] has appeared. | * the tilted [[http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5575146719&toolid=10001&campid=5338647285&customid=&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3FLH_CAds%3D%26_ex_kw%3D%26_fpos%3D%26_fspt%3D1%26_mPrRngCbx%3D1%26_nkw%3Dcoleman%2Bblackcat%26_sacat%3D%26_sadis%3D%26_sop%3D12%26_udhi%3D%26_udlo%3D%26_fosrp%3D1|BlackCat]] (3,000 btu), etc. Note: a [[https://amzn.to/3am0vxM|clone of the sportcat]] has appeared. |
* fan-forced [[https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?LH_CAds=&_ex_kw=&_fpos=&_fspt=1&_mPrRngCbx=1&_nkw=coleman+procat&_sacat=&_sadis=&_sop=12&_udhi=&_udlo=&_fosrp=1|ProCat]] (3,000 btu) | * fan-forced [[http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5575146719&toolid=10001&campid=5338647285&customid=&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_odkw%3Dcoleman%2Bsportcat%26_sop%3D12%26_fspt%3D1%26_mPrRngCbx%3D1%26_osacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm570.l1313%26_nkw%3Dcoleman%2Bprocat%26_sacat%3D0|ProCat]] (3,000 btu) |
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==== diesel heating ==== | ==== diesel heating ==== |
=== flame === | === flame === |
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| [[http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5575146719&toolid=10001&campid=5338647285&customid=&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3FLH_CAds%3D%26_ex_kw%3D%26_fpos%3D%26_fspt%3D1%26_mPrRngCbx%3D1%26_nkw%3Dcoleman%2Bheat%2Bdrum%26_sacat%3D%26_sadis%3D%26_sop%3D12%26_udhi%3D%26_udlo%3D%26_fosrp%3D1|Heat drums]] were made for some Coleman stoves. |
==== candle ==== | ==== candle ==== |
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Candles are an oft-discussed source of heat. I typical candle will put out something like 70w((239btu)) of heat. | [[https://amzn.to/37agHAg|{{ https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91IkqAoxkzL._AC_UL320_ML3_.jpg?75}}]]Candles are an oft-discussed source of heat. A candle will put out something like 240btu((70w equivalent)) of heat. They also give off light and can be used [[https://amzn.to/37agHAg|as a lantern]]. |
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| Downsides include soot, tippiness, and lead content in some wicks. Using candles in a "lantern" fixture may be safer. |
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| The most common candle lantern is the [[https://amzn.to/2TDFqcd|UCO lantern]], which uses [[https://amzn.to/2v4QTHC|a proprietary candle]] which UCO says produces 450 btu. They make tealight versions in [[https://amzn.to/38eyNkK|non-collapsible mini]] and [[http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5575146719&toolid=10001&campid=5338647285&customid=&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm570.l1313%26_nkw%3Duco%2Bmicro%2Blantern%26_sacat%3D0|collapsible micro]] sizes. |
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