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hvac:heating [2020/01/19 17:10]
frater_secessus [Heating] |
hvac:heating [2021/09/25 11:26]
frater_secessus [white gas heating] removed coleman |
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| === catalytic === | === catalytic === |
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| | Catalytic heaters are called that because they catalyse (degrade with chemistry and temperature) fuel rather than burn it with flame. Benefits include somewhat higher efficiency (using less fuel, creating less water vapor) and a softer, less direct heat less likely to catch things on fire. |
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| [[https://amzn.to/3am0vxM|{{ https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71rDsgejreL._AC_UL320_ML3_.jpg?75}}]]Now discontinued, Coleman made smallish propane catalytic heaters:((ebay links to used ones included below)) | [[https://amzn.to/3am0vxM|{{ https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71rDsgejreL._AC_UL320_ML3_.jpg?75}}]]Now discontinued, Coleman made smallish propane catalytic heaters:((ebay links to used ones included below)) |
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| * the upright [[http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5575146719&toolid=10001&campid=5338647285&customid=&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3FLH_CAds%3D%26_ex_kw%3D%26_fpos%3D%26_fspt%3D1%26_mPrRngCbx%3D1%26_nkw%3Dcoleman%2Bsportcat%26_sacat%3D%26_sadis%3D%26_sop%3D12%26_udhi%3D%26_udlo%3D%26_fosrp%3D1|SportCat]] (1,500 btu)((440w equivalent)) | * the upright [[https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?LH_CAds=&_ex_kw=&_fpos=&_fspt=1&_mPrRngCbx=1&_nkw=coleman+sportcat&_sacat=&_sadis=&_sop=12&_udhi=&_udlo=&_fosrp=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&mkcid=1&campid=5338647285&toolid=10001&customid=&mkevt=1|SportCat]] (1,500 btu)((440w equivalent)) |
| * the tilted [[http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5575146719&toolid=10001&campid=5338647285&customid=&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3FLH_CAds%3D%26_ex_kw%3D%26_fpos%3D%26_fspt%3D1%26_mPrRngCbx%3D1%26_nkw%3Dcoleman%2Bblackcat%26_sacat%3D%26_sadis%3D%26_sop%3D12%26_udhi%3D%26_udlo%3D%26_fosrp%3D1|BlackCat]] (3,000 btu), etc. Note: a [[https://amzn.to/3am0vxM|clone of the sportcat]] has appeared. | * the tilted [[https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?LH_CAds=&_ex_kw=&_fpos=&_fspt=1&_mPrRngCbx=1&_nkw=coleman+blackcat&_sacat=&_sadis=&_sop=12&_udhi=&_udlo=&_fosrp=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&mkcid=1&campid=5338647285&toolid=10001&customid=&mkevt=1|BlackCat]] (3,000 btu), etc. Note: a [[https://amzn.to/3am0vxM|clone of the sportcat]] has appeared. |
| * fan-forced [[http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5575146719&toolid=10001&campid=5338647285&customid=&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_odkw%3Dcoleman%2Bsportcat%26_sop%3D12%26_fspt%3D1%26_mPrRngCbx%3D1%26_osacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm570.l1313%26_nkw%3Dcoleman%2Bprocat%26_sacat%3D0|ProCat]] (3,000 btu) | * fan-forced [[https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=coleman+sportcat&_sop=12&_fspt=1&_mPrRngCbx=1&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=coleman+procat&_sacat=0&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&mkcid=1&campid=5338647285&toolid=10001&customid=&mkevt=1|ProCat]] (3,000 btu) |
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| ==== diesel heating ==== | ==== diesel heating ==== |
| * [[https://amzn.to/2t7wCjx|superfastracing]] recommended by likesweirdthings((https://www.reddit.com/r/VanLife/comments/e9ptvk/i_bought_myself_a_promaster_and_the_next_steps/famw6ja/)) | * [[https://amzn.to/2t7wCjx|superfastracing]] recommended by likesweirdthings((https://www.reddit.com/r/VanLife/comments/e9ptvk/i_bought_myself_a_promaster_and_the_next_steps/famw6ja/)) |
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| ==== white gas heating ==== | |
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| White gas, sold as Coleman camp fuel, was a common heating/cooking/lantern fuel until the relatively recent ascendance of propane.((which old fettlers refer to as "profane")) Propane is probably safer for generations who did not grow up camping with stoves, pocketknives, et.c Part of it is safety, and part is that the gear just isn't made anymore. | |
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| Coleman fuel gear has relatively little smell while running at temperature, but **start-up and shut-down can create fumes and intense odors**. Those activities should be done outdoors. | |
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| === catalytic === | |
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| {{ https://i.ebayimg.com/thumbs/images/g/RbMAAOSw-0BeFJaj/s-l225.jpg}}Catalytic heaters were common in the 60s-70s and can be found at garage sales, thrift shops, or ebay. [[https://www.campingforums.com/forum/showthread.php?6373-Easy-to-fix-old-Coleman-catalytic-heaters&p=31193&viewfull=1#post31193|Repair instructions]]. | |
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| * dome-shaped heaters like the 513-700 (3,000-5,000 btu) pictured here, 512A708 (3500 btu, [[https://i.ebayimg.com/thumbs/images/g/IhgAAOSwBm9eHMq~/s-l225.jpg|pic]], [[http://www.oldtowncoleman.com/manuals/512A.pdf|manual]]) | |
| * block-shaped heater 513A (3,000-5,000 btu) ([[https://i.ebayimg.com/thumbs/images/g/uXgAAOSwXq5eJEos/s-l225.jpg|pic]]) | |
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| === flame === | |
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| [[http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5575146719&toolid=10001&campid=5338647285&customid=&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3FLH_CAds%3D%26_ex_kw%3D%26_fpos%3D%26_fspt%3D1%26_mPrRngCbx%3D1%26_nkw%3Dcoleman%2Bheat%2Bdrum%26_sacat%3D%26_sadis%3D%26_sop%3D12%26_udhi%3D%26_udlo%3D%26_fosrp%3D1|Heat drums]] were made for some Coleman stoves. | |
| ==== candle ==== | ==== candle ==== |
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| [[https://amzn.to/37agHAg|{{ https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91IkqAoxkzL._AC_UL320_ML3_.jpg?75}}]]Candles are an oft-discussed source of heat. I typical candle will put out something like 240btu((70w equivalent)) of heat. They also give off light and can be used [[https://amzn.to/37agHAg|as a lantern]]. | [[https://amzn.to/37agHAg|{{ https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91IkqAoxkzL._AC_UL320_ML3_.jpg?75}}]]Candles are an oft-discussed source of heat. A candle will put out something like 240btu((70w equivalent)) of heat. They also give off light and can be used [[https://amzn.to/37agHAg|as a lantern]]. |
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| Downsides include soot, tippiness, and lead content in some wicks. Using candles in a "lantern" fixture may be safer. | Downsides include soot, tippiness, and lead content in some wicks. Using candles in a "lantern" fixture may be safer. |
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| The most common candle lantern is the [[https://amzn.to/2TDFqcd|UCO lantern]], which uses [[https://amzn.to/2v4QTHC|a proprietary candle]] which UCO says produces 450 btu. They make tealight versions in [[https://amzn.to/38eyNkK|non-collapsible mini]] and [[http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?ff3=4&pub=5575146719&toolid=10001&campid=5338647285&customid=&mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm570.l1313%26_nkw%3Duco%2Bmicro%2Blantern%26_sacat%3D0|collapsible micro]] sizes. | The most common candle lantern is the [[https://amzn.to/2TDFqcd|UCO lantern]], which uses [[https://amzn.to/2v4QTHC|a proprietary candle]] which UCO says produces 450 btu. They make tealight versions in [[https://amzn.to/38eyNkK|non-collapsible mini]] and [[https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=uco+micro+lantern&_sacat=0&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&mkcid=1&campid=5338647285&toolid=10001&customid=&mkevt=1|collapsible micro]] sizes. |
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| You can also DIY heated gear with [[http://carbonheater.us/|carbon heat strips]]. | You can also DIY heated gear with [[http://carbonheater.us/|carbon heat strips]]. |
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| | Note: a quirk of electric heating is that the heaters typically don't run at varying power levels for varying heat levels; they vary the ON/OFF duty cycle. So maybe 100% duty cycle at 100w on HI (average 100w) and 10% duty cycle at 100w on LO -- on for one second and off for 9 seconds (average 10w). For this reason you may not be able to run a 300w electric blanket on LO (30w average) from a 200w [[electrical:inverter|inverter]]. |
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| ===== comparison ===== | ===== comparison ===== |
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