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hvac:heating [2021/03/17 23:01]
frater_secessus
hvac:heating [2022/01/11 13:19]
princess_fluffypants [space heating]
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 > "Fear of propane will be expensive." -- Sternwake((https://vandwellerforum.com/thread-3260-post-55086.html#pid55086)) > "Fear of propane will be expensive." -- Sternwake((https://vandwellerforum.com/thread-3260-post-55086.html#pid55086))
-===== space heating =====+===== Space Heating =====
  
 Fuel-consuming heaters create air-quality issues, including decreased oxygen and increased carbon monoxide.  **This is why we ventilate.**   Fuel-consuming heaters create air-quality issues, including decreased oxygen and increased carbon monoxide.  **This is why we ventilate.**  
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 When [[electrical:shore_power|shore power]] is available electric space heating may be preferable for air quality reasons. When [[electrical:shore_power|shore power]] is available electric space heating may be preferable for air quality reasons.
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 +==== Vented Heaters ====
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 +These are heaters which burn a fuel to produce heat (either gasoline, diesel, or propane), however the exhaust products are vented outside of the van.  This gives the benefit of being able to generate a //lot// of heat for days and days at a time even in extremely cold climates, without needing to worry (much) about fumes or excess humidity.  The downsides are cost, installation complexity (it requires drilling some fairly large holes in the bottom of the van), and operational complexity (potentially needing to manage yet another fuel source).  However due to the incredible amounts of long-term safe heat they are able to put out, **this is the method of heating recommended for anyone spending extensive time in cold climates.**  They do require some electrical power to run the fan and thermostat/ignition system, so they are best suited to dwellers who have a dedicated house battery setup.
 ==== propane heating ==== ==== propane heating ====
  
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   * [[https://amzn.to/2t7wCjx|superfastracing]] recommended by likesweirdthings((https://www.reddit.com/r/VanLife/comments/e9ptvk/i_bought_myself_a_promaster_and_the_next_steps/famw6ja/))   * [[https://amzn.to/2t7wCjx|superfastracing]] recommended by likesweirdthings((https://www.reddit.com/r/VanLife/comments/e9ptvk/i_bought_myself_a_promaster_and_the_next_steps/famw6ja/))
  
-==== white gas heating ==== 
  
-White gas, sold as Coleman camp fuel, was a common heating/cooking/lantern fuel until the relatively recent ascendance of propane.((which old fettlers refer to as "profane"))  Propane is probably safer for generations who did not grow up camping with stoves, pocketknives, et.c  Part of it is safety, and part is that the gear just isn't made anymore.   
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-Coleman fuel gear has relatively little smell while running at temperature, but **start-up and shut-down can create fumes and intense odors**. Those activities should be done outdoors. 
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-=== catalytic === 
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-{{ https://i.ebayimg.com/thumbs/images/g/RbMAAOSw-0BeFJaj/s-l225.jpg}}Catalytic heaters were common in the 60s-70s and can be found at garage sales, thrift shops, or ebay. [[https://www.campingforums.com/forum/showthread.php?6373-Easy-to-fix-old-Coleman-catalytic-heaters&p=31193&viewfull=1#post31193|Repair instructions]]. 
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-  * dome-shaped heaters like the 513-700 (3,000-5,000 btu) pictured here, 512A708 (3500 btu, [[https://i.ebayimg.com/thumbs/images/g/IhgAAOSwBm9eHMq~/s-l225.jpg|pic]], [[http://www.oldtowncoleman.com/manuals/512A.pdf|manual]]) 
-  * block-shaped heater 513A (3,000-5,000 btu) ([[https://i.ebayimg.com/thumbs/images/g/uXgAAOSwXq5eJEos/s-l225.jpg|pic]]) 
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-=== flame === 
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-[[https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?LH_CAds=&_ex_kw=&_fpos=&_fspt=1&_mPrRngCbx=1&_nkw=coleman+heat+drum&_sacat=&_sadis=&_sop=12&_udhi=&_udlo=&_fosrp=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&mkcid=1&campid=5338647285&toolid=10001&customid=&mkevt=1|Heat drums]] were made for some Coleman stoves.   
 ==== candle ==== ==== candle ====
  
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 You can also DIY heated gear with [[http://carbonheater.us/|carbon heat strips]]. You can also DIY heated gear with [[http://carbonheater.us/|carbon heat strips]].
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 +Note:  a quirk of electric heating is that the heaters typically don't run at varying power levels for varying heat levels; they vary the ON/OFF duty cycle.  So maybe 100% duty cycle at 100w on HI (average 100w) and 10% duty cycle at 100w on LO -- on for one second and off for 9 seconds (average 10w).  For this reason you may not be able to run a 300w electric blanket on LO (30w average) from a 200w [[electrical:inverter|inverter]].
  
 ===== comparison ===== ===== comparison =====
  
  
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