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   * arriving late to the spot and leaving early   * arriving late to the spot and leaving early
   * rotating spots instead of staying in one place.  If you are stealthing in a particular city, build a rotation of sleep spots to keep from overusing any   * rotating spots instead of staying in one place.  If you are stealthing in a particular city, build a rotation of sleep spots to keep from overusing any
-  * street parking around businesses where others street park+  * street parking around businesses, apartments, etc where others street park
   * parking near 24hr businesses   * parking near 24hr businesses
   * parking between two 24hr businesses so each thinks you are at the other   * parking between two 24hr businesses so each thinks you are at the other
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   * staying still to avoid moving the van   * staying still to avoid moving the van
   * tinting or blacking out windows to minimize light exposure   * tinting or blacking out windows to minimize light exposure
-  * parking under streetlights to help hide light leakage from your windows.  Also helps with security. +  * parking under streetlights to help hide light leakage from your windows.  Also helps with [[camping:safety|security]]. 
   * blackout curtain between van cab and living space   * blackout curtain between van cab and living space
   * staying in more working-class neighborhoods if residential stealthing is necessary.  Park in front of vacant lots if possible to avoid police calls.   * staying in more working-class neighborhoods if residential stealthing is necessary.  Park in front of vacant lots if possible to avoid police calls.
 +  * entering vehicle through the driver's door instead of through back hatch or side doors
  
 +===== street parking =====
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 +Look for areas where other vehicles are parked:  near apartments, businesses, industrial areas, etc.((as a bonus, some of these areas will have open wifi))   If you find a promising spot while on errands mark it in your nav app so you can return some other time.  
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 +Avoid areas with schools, residences, etc to avoid riling neighbors. Be certain not to block driveways or ingress/egress of trucks. Watch out for street signs with directional(("<-- no parking")) or time/day((you can note these in your nav app and return when the time/day enforcement is not in effect)) restrictions.  Avoid painted curbs, typically red (fire lanes), yellow, blue, green, etc. 
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 +To avoid accidents you may want to avoid parking on near curves/hills where sightlines are limited, near bars where drunks will be navigating.  You might want to park forward of other vehicles to avoid being the first in the chain to be hit. To avoid being blocked in you can park in the first or last legal slot in the row -- no one will be able to park close enough to hem you in. If your driver's side mirror folds in you might do so to avoid damage from close passes or vandals.  
  
 ===== beware local laws ===== ===== beware local laws =====
  
 [[camping:banned|Some cities or counties]] forbid sleeping in vehicles, parking RVs, etc.   [[camping:banned|Some cities or counties]] forbid sleeping in vehicles, parking RVs, etc.  
-Famously, the Los Angeles law against living in a car was struck down by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals as being "unconstitutionally vague".((http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Los-Angeles-Sleeping-Living-in-Vehicles-Cars-Law-Court-Ruling-Appeal-263860741.html))  
  
-Since the 9th Circuit covers much of the west coast this may have special value for [[camping:snowbirding|snowbirds]].((http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/content/view.php?pk_id=0000000135))+Famously, the original Los Angeles law against living in a car was struck down by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals as being "unconstitutionally vague".((http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Los-Angeles-Sleeping-Living-in-Vehicles-Cars-Law-Court-Ruling-Appeal-263860741.html)) Since the 9th Circuit covers much of the west coast this may have special value for [[camping:snowbirding|snowbirds]].((http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/content/view.php?pk_id=0000000135)) A similar shift occurred in 1972 when SCOTUS struck down Jacksonville, Florida's vagrancy law.((http://blogs.findlaw.com/law_and_life/2013/08/is-it-legal-to-live-in-your-car.html))   
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-A similar shift occurred in 1972 when SCOTUS struck down Jacksonville, Florida's vagrancy law.((http://blogs.findlaw.com/law_and_life/2013/08/is-it-legal-to-live-in-your-car.html))   
  
 ===== finding industrial areas ===== ===== finding industrial areas =====
  
-Some cities have for local [[https://duckduckgo.com/?q=zoning+maps&ia=maps|zoning maps]] online((https://www.reddit.com/r/vandwellers/comments/5h5ri8/zoning_maps_for_avoiding_cop_callers/))+Some cities have their local [[https://duckduckgo.com/?q=zoning+maps&ia=maps|zoning maps]] online((https://www.reddit.com/r/vandwellers/comments/5h5ri8/zoning_maps_for_avoiding_cop_callers/)) 
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 +You may also be able to use Google Maps or other imagery to see where the warehouse/industrial districts are. 
  
  
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 ===== indecency ===== ===== indecency =====
-Normal activities like using the toilet or bathing could be considered indecent exposure if witness by the public.((http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/indecent-exposure.html))  Be discreet!+Normal activities like using the toilet or bathing could be considered indecent exposure if witnessed by the public.((http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/indecent-exposure.html))  Be discreet!
  
 ===== Further reading and viewing ===== ===== Further reading and viewing =====
-[[Avoiding the Knock—Stealth Parking Tips and Tricks|{{ https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vn9F0fxnicc/hqdefault.jpg?150}}]]+ 
 +[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn9F0fxnicc|{{ https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vn9F0fxnicc/hqdefault.jpg?150}}]] 
 +  * [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn9F0fxnicc|Avoiding the Knock—Stealth Parking Tips and Tricks]] - Bob Wells  
 +  * [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DLK18eKs6c|BEST Tips & Advice for Stealth Parking in the City]] - Bob Wells 
 +  * Hacker Public Radio podcast - Klaatu's [[https://hackerpublicradio.org/series.php?id=46|Urban Camping series]] - highly recommended 
 +  * [[https://www.reddit.com/r/StealthCamping/|/r/StealthCamping]]
  
  
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