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 ====== Low Voltage Disconnect (LVD) ====== ====== Low Voltage Disconnect (LVD) ======
  
-A low voltage disconnect is used to stop loads from dragging a battery bank below a given voltage.+A low voltage disconnect is used to stop loads from dragging a battery bank below a given voltage (Vlvd). 
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 +===== examples ===== 
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 +[[https://amzn.to/3Ri94RY|{{ https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51ODnDvz-rL._AC_UL400_.jpg?125}}]] 
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 +  * [[https://amzn.to/3Ri94RY|Victron Battery Protect]] 
 +  * [[https://amzn.to/47Xzz5n|Blue Sea 7635 m-LVD]] 
 +  * [[https://www.amazon.com/s?k=low+voltage+disconnect&link_code=qs&tag=themousepad|various amazon listings]] 
 + 
 +One can also **DIY a low voltage disconnect**.   
 + 
 +In theory the simplest way to implement an LVD would be to wire all loads go through the [[electrical:solar:charge_controller#using_load_output|LOAD output]] of the charge controller, and set the controller's [[electrical:solar:charge_controller_setpoints|Vlvd]].  In practice this is rarely done for reasons given in the link above.  It is more common to run a [[electrical:12v:relay|relay]] on the LOAD output, which is triggered ON/OFF by the LVD setting: 
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 +controller LOAD output -> relay -> loads((the LOAD triggers the relay, but actual power comes from the battery bank))   
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 +If the controller has no LVD (or not no LOAD output at all) you can use a   [[https://amzn.to/3m2OTp3|stand-alone LVD]] powered by the battery.  
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-In most installations all loads go through the LVD except the [[electrical:inverter|inverter]], due to the heavy current draw.  The inverter will have its own internal LVD. 
  
 ===== common LVD setpoints ===== ===== common LVD setpoints =====
  
-Lead-acid deep cycle batteries last the longest with best capacity if they are never cycled more than 50% [[electrical:depth_of_discharge|Depth of Discharge]]((and fully charged afterwards)).  That point is somewhere around 12.20v.  +Lead-acid deep cycle batteries are typically discharged 50% [[electrical:depth_of_discharge|Depth of Discharge]] or less ((and fully charged afterwards)).  That point is somewhere around 12.20v when rested or very lightly loaded.  
  
 This following chart((http://www.trojanbattery.com/pdf/GEL_Trojan_ProductLineSheet.pdf)) shows DoD vs expected duty cycles.  In an offgrid scenario we will assume the bank is cycled every night.  If the bank is drained to the usual 50% DoD the bank((under lab conditions)) is predicted to last 1000 cycles, or about 3 years.  If the bank cycle is shallower to 20% DoD the bank is expected to last 2500 cycles, or about 7.5 years.  If the bank is deeply cycled to 80% DoD the bank is expected to last 500 cycles, or about 1.5 years. This following chart((http://www.trojanbattery.com/pdf/GEL_Trojan_ProductLineSheet.pdf)) shows DoD vs expected duty cycles.  In an offgrid scenario we will assume the bank is cycled every night.  If the bank is drained to the usual 50% DoD the bank((under lab conditions)) is predicted to last 1000 cycles, or about 3 years.  If the bank cycle is shallower to 20% DoD the bank is expected to last 2500 cycles, or about 7.5 years.  If the bank is deeply cycled to 80% DoD the bank is expected to last 500 cycles, or about 1.5 years.
  
-{{ :electrical:12v:ladutycycles.png?direct&400 |}}+{{ :electrical:12v:ladutycycles.png?direct |}}
  
-The sweet spot appears to be 40% DoD, about 12.3v.+The sweet spot appears to be 40% DoD based on the graph.
  
  
  
  
-[[electrical:12v:lifepo4_batteries_thread|LiFePO4]] nominal 12v banks can be safely drained to 80-90% Depth of Discharge.  That point is something like 12.0v.((http://rvwiki.mousetrap.net/doku.php?id=electrical:12v:lifepo4_batteries_thread#notable_voltage_reference_points))+[[electrical:12v:deep_cycle_battery#lithium_chemistries[electrical:12v:lifepo4_batteries_thread|LiFePO4]] nominal 12v banks can be safely drained to 80-90% Depth of Discharge.  That point is something like 12.0v.((http://rvwiki.mousetrap.net/doku.php?id=electrical:12v:lifepo4_batteries_thread#notable_voltage_reference_points))
  
 ===== challenges ===== ===== challenges =====
  
-LVD rely on measured voltage to know when to disconnect, but heavy loads can distort that reading.+LVD rely on measured voltage to know when to disconnect, but heavy loads can cause distortions (//voltage sag//) in that reading. 
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 +|  **State of Charge**|  **Voltage, light or no load((1.0 per Trojan))**|  **moderate load((interpolated as 0.9))**|  **heavy load((0.8 per Trojan))**| 
 +|  100|  12.70|  11.43|  10.16| 
 +|  90|  12.60|  11.34|  10.08| 
 +|  80|  12.40|  11.16|  9.92| 
 +|  70|  12.30|  11.07|  9.84| 
 +|  60|  12.20|  10.98|  9.76| 
 +|  50|  12.10|  10.89|  9.68| 
 +|  40|  12.00|  10.80|  9.60| 
 +|  30|  11.80|  10.62|  9.44| 
 +|  20|  11.65|  10.49|  9.32| 
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 +Observe and adjust based on your experience with your own system.   
 + 
 +===== further reading ===== 
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 +  * [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFUcXOznENQ|quick demonstration]] of a generic LVD 
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