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--- food:coffee [2025/01/15 13:28]
frater_secessus [TL;DR]
+++ food:coffee [2025/03/04 20:00] (current)
frater_secessus [power consumption] added induction measurement
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 ==== cost per serving ====
-Using Folger's non-sale prices in the cheapest unit price at Walmart as of the time of this writing:
+Using Folger's non-sale prices in the cheapest (bulk) unit price at Walmart as of the time of this writing:
 From most expensive to least expensive, per tall cup (500ml / ~17oz)
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   - $0.35   instant coffee "singles" (individual packets)
   - $0.31 - ground coffee
-  - $**0.13** - instant coffee in jars
+  - $**0.18** - instant coffee in jars
-In bulk the most extensive option is about **10x the cost** of the least expensive.
+In bulk the most extensive option is about **7x the cost** of the least expensive.  In general ground is about 2x as much as instant, although the giant 40oz Folgers "tallboy"((might not be good for small spaces, see below)) brings it down to 1.72x.
 ==== bulkiness and storage ====
-If we assume a smaller package for 'dwellers the difference is even greater:
+Crude math done by Secessus on coffee containers in his van suggests ground coffee takes >3.5x more space (volume) to store per cup of coffee
+If we assume a smaller packages for 'dwellers the price difference is even greater:
   - **$1.88** - pods (12 pack)
   - $0.47 - ground coffee (10oz)  Note:  while not so available as they once were, 10oz vacuum-packed "bricks" can be less expensive.((No Folgers brick was available at time of writing.  But for comparison the Bustelo 10oz brick was ~20% less than the 10oz can.))
   - $0.35   instant coffee "singles" (no bulk available)
-  - $**0.13** - instant coffee (12oz)
+  - $**0.18** - instant coffee (12oz)
-In sizes vanfolk are more likely to carry with them the most expensive option is about **15x the cost** of the least expensive.
+In sizes vanfolk are more likely to carry with them the most expensive option is about **10x the cost** of the least expensive.
 ==== weight ====
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 Only the Keurig and drip coffeemakers //require// electricity. Water for press, pour-over, and instant can be boiled over [[food:cooking:stoves#gaseous_fuel|propane or gas stoves]].
-Since it takes the same amount of power to heat a given amount of water there is likely little difference in brewing power consumption between Keurig and drip.  Secessus has noted 70Wh((plus inverter losses)) for drip brewing 500ml of coffee.  For comparison, he observed ~111Wh for kettle on a hotplate, and ~135Wh for percolator on hotplate.((more heat lost to environment))
+Since it takes the same amount of power to heat a given amount of water there is likely little difference in brewing power consumption between Keurig and drip.  Secessus has noted 70Wh((plus inverter losses)) for drip brewing 500ml of coffee.  For comparison, he observed ~111Wh for kettle on a coil hotplate, ~67Wh for a kettle on induction,  and ~135Wh for percolator on hotplate.((more heat lost to environment))

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