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frater_secessus [62TE transmission]
rv:ram_promaster [2024/07/29 17:56] (current)
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 The PM is a front-wheel drive platform with nearly straight sides, tight turning circle, low cargo deck height, and a wide (74") cargo area. The PM is a front-wheel drive platform with nearly straight sides, tight turning circle, low cargo deck height, and a wide (74") cargo area.
  
-It comes in low (65" standing room) and high roof (76" standing room) models, with 136" and 159" wheelbases yielding 10' and 12' cargo areas respectively.  There is also an extended body on the 159" wheelbase;  this option has a 13.33' cargo area and is only available on the 3500 model.((https://www.ramtrucks.com/en/pdf/2014_ram_promaster_eBrochure.pdf))+It comes in low (65" standing room) and high roof (76" standing room) models, and beginning in 2023 there was the introduction of the "Super High" roof (86" standing room). Wheelbase options are either 136" or 159"yielding 10' and 12' cargo areas respectively.  There is also an extended body on the 159" wheelbase;  this option has a 13.33' cargo area and is only available on the 3500 model.((https://www.ramtrucks.com/en/pdf/2014_ram_promaster_eBrochure.pdf))
  
 {{http://zombdrive.com/images/2014-ram-promaster-cargo-van-2.jpg?200|159WB; note space between end of sliding door track and rear of vehicle. }}The 1500/2500/3500 badges are ambiguous.((http://www.promasterforum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=182433))  The 159" wheelbase is offered on the 2500 and up..  The 159" Extended model is available only on the 3500.  The only confirmed difference between the 2500 and 3500 is a sway bar added on the 3500.((http://www.promasterforum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=182433&postcount=63)) {{http://zombdrive.com/images/2014-ram-promaster-cargo-van-2.jpg?200|159WB; note space between end of sliding door track and rear of vehicle. }}The 1500/2500/3500 badges are ambiguous.((http://www.promasterforum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=182433))  The 159" wheelbase is offered on the 2500 and up..  The 159" Extended model is available only on the 3500.  The only confirmed difference between the 2500 and 3500 is a sway bar added on the 3500.((http://www.promasterforum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=182433&postcount=63))
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 Also see [[https://blog.fcanorthamerica.com/2008/02/11/jeep-brake-traction-control-explained/|FCA's description of a similar system]] in the Jeep line. Also see [[https://blog.fcanorthamerica.com/2008/02/11/jeep-brake-traction-control-explained/|FCA's description of a similar system]] in the Jeep line.
-===== electrical =====+===== alternator =====
  
 The gasoline PM has either a 180A((Lester 11792)) or an optional 220A Denso-type alternator((Lester 11793)); they are traditional "fixed voltage" and not of the modern "smart" variety.  [[https://www.promasterforum.com/threads/alternator-amps.93526/post-737110|This VIN decoder]] will indicate which alternator a van was built with. In either case the six-groove pulley ratio is 2.84:1.((https://www.promasterforum.com/threads/alternator-specs-for-gas-pms.99215/post-794345))  Output when cold is ~14.3v;  voltage may be regulated down to ~13.8v when hot.   The gasoline PM has either a 180A((Lester 11792)) or an optional 220A Denso-type alternator((Lester 11793)); they are traditional "fixed voltage" and not of the modern "smart" variety.  [[https://www.promasterforum.com/threads/alternator-amps.93526/post-737110|This VIN decoder]] will indicate which alternator a van was built with. In either case the six-groove pulley ratio is 2.84:1.((https://www.promasterforum.com/threads/alternator-specs-for-gas-pms.99215/post-794345))  Output when cold is ~14.3v;  voltage may be regulated down to ~13.8v when hot.  
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   * [[https://www.promasterforum.com/threads/180-amp-alternator-with-amp-clamp-on-output.99118/post-792681|This post]] on the Promaster forum shares official load estimates for various accessories.   * [[https://www.promasterforum.com/threads/180-amp-alternator-with-amp-clamp-on-output.99118/post-792681|This post]] on the Promaster forum shares official load estimates for various accessories.
   * [[https://www.promasterforum.com/threads/alternator-charging%E2%80%A6too-complex-for-a-novice.95350/post-755316|This post]] describes the procedure for alternator replacement.    * [[https://www.promasterforum.com/threads/alternator-charging%E2%80%A6too-complex-for-a-novice.95350/post-755316|This post]] describes the procedure for alternator replacement. 
 +  * [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcLaBxzz6ZM|This Promasters Only video]] covers alternator replacement and upgrades
   * [[https://www.promasterforum.com/threads/alternator-charging-problem.89222/post-686694?nested_view=0|this post]] describes the voltage regulation via ECU   * [[https://www.promasterforum.com/threads/alternator-charging-problem.89222/post-686694?nested_view=0|this post]] describes the voltage regulation via ECU
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 +see [[https://www.reddit.com/r/VanLife/comments/1bph4jm/im_paranoid_of_burning_up_my_alternator_with_dc/kxgz8co/|this post]] on the use/abuse of the PM alt for house bank charging
  
 ==== excess capacity at idle ==== ==== excess capacity at idle ====
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 Note that the radiator fans can add 65A when they come on, reducing excess capacity to zero. Note that the radiator fans can add 65A when they come on, reducing excess capacity to zero.
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 ==== fusebox layout ==== ==== fusebox layout ====
  
 {{https://img.mousetrap.net/pm/pmfuses.jpg?400}} {{https://img.mousetrap.net/pm/pmfuses.jpg?400}}
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 +==== upfitter connection point ====
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 +some vans are ordered from with an upfitter connection, which can be tapped for D+ signals, 50-70A B+((depending on year)) , etc.    See [[https://www.promasterforum.com/threads/all-the-ram-promaster-upfitter-connector-information-and-pinouts-in-one-file.98176/|this thread]] for details. 
 ===== fuel consumption ===== ===== fuel consumption =====
  
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 This 6-speed auto is used in gas models.  It uses ATF+4 and/or Chrysler MS-9602 spec fluid.((https://www.allpar.com/forums/threads/62te-problem.157606/page-2#post-1084785175))  \\ This 6-speed auto is used in gas models.  It uses ATF+4 and/or Chrysler MS-9602 spec fluid.((https://www.allpar.com/forums/threads/62te-problem.157606/page-2#post-1084785175))  \\
 Note:  the trans technically has 7 forward speeds but [[https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=62te%204th%20gear%20prime|4th prime]] is only used during downshifts. Note:  the trans technically has 7 forward speeds but [[https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=62te%204th%20gear%20prime|4th prime]] is only used during downshifts.
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 +The definitive series on the 62TE trans is by Kip of Promasters Only on youtube:
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 +  * [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEKs8Nzh1W8|62TE Transmission Series - Part I]] -  Overview
 +  * [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsbOsYiruAk|62TE Transmission Series Part II]] - Solenoid Pack 
 +  * [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPGHZ_-P7CA|62TE Transmission Series - Part III]] - Torque Converter
 +  * [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmRgBR5gN-k|62TE Transmission Series - Part IV]] - Flex Plate
 +  * [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWlkWJ1ChCw|62TE Transmission Series - Part V]] - the Pump
  
 One rebuilder recommends full trans service (with synthetic) every 25k miles.((http://etereman.com/blog/vw-transmission/single-tips-62te-transmission-vw-routan-running))  Frequent service and correct fluids appear to be critical: One rebuilder recommends full trans service (with synthetic) every 25k miles.((http://etereman.com/blog/vw-transmission/single-tips-62te-transmission-vw-routan-running))  Frequent service and correct fluids appear to be critical:
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 A whine from the transmission that sounds like a power steering pump may be from foamy ATF.  This could be caused by low AT fluid level.((http://www.allpar.com/mopar/transmissions/62TE.html)) A whine from the transmission that sounds like a power steering pump may be from foamy ATF.  This could be caused by low AT fluid level.((http://www.allpar.com/mopar/transmissions/62TE.html))
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   * [[http://www.allpar.com/mopar/transmissions/62TE.html|62TE overview and history]]   * [[http://www.allpar.com/mopar/transmissions/62TE.html|62TE overview and history]]
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