====== Cargo van comparo ====== [[rv:cargo_van|Cargo vans]] come in various sizes, shapes, and capacities. Narrowing it down to one or two models can help you avoid [[lifestyle:analysis paralysis|analysis paralysis]]. These page attempts to collect specifications which you can consider (or not) based on your own needs. Footnotes are in place so you can check sources for yourself. [frater says: don't trust anyone else's judgement on what van //you// need. It's your life, and it's your house!] There are basic sections on [[rv:cargo_van|American cargo vans]], [[rv:eurovan|eurovans]], and [[rv:minicargo_van|minicargo vans]] on other wiki pages. [[https://www.adriansteel.com/resources/vehicle-dimensions.php|Useful diagram for factory interior dimensions.]] ===== Living area comparison ===== ^ Model ^ Cargo height((at ribs)) ^ Cargo length ^ Cargo width at belt line ^ Width between wheelwells ^ Cargo volume ^ Overall length | | | **NV**((full size)) | 75" High \\ ---- \\ 55.8" Low | 120" | 70.2" | 54" | 323.1'((http://www.trucktrend.com/truck-reviews/163-1212-full-size-van-numbers/)) High \\ ---- \\ 234' Low | | | | **[[rv:ram_promaster|Promaster]]** | **86"** Super High \\ ---- \\ 76" High \\ ---- \\ **65.4"** Low((http://www.thecarconnection.com/specifications/ram_promaster_2016_1500-low-roof-118-wb)) | 123"((136WB)), 144"((159WB)), 160"((159WB Extended)) | **74"** | **56"** | **406'**((136WB high roof)), 459'((159WB high roof)), 529.7'((159WB Extended high roof)) High \\ ---- \\ **304'**((136WB low)), 353 159WB Low | | | | **[[rv:sprinter|Sprinter]]** | 77.8"((high roof)), 66.5"((low roof))((https://www.waltersmercedesbenzofriverside.com/how-tall-is-the-mercedes-benz-sprinter-van/)). 87.3"((super high roof, if available)) | **128.5"**((144WB)), 169.3((170WB, longest non-extended body)), **185.3"**((170WB Extended)) | 70.1"((http://www.iseecars.com/car/2006-dodge-sprinter-dimensions)) | 53.1" | 371'((144WB high roof)), **494'**((171WB high roof, largest volume non-extended body)), **547'**((171WB Extended high roof)) | | | | **[[rv:ford_transit|Transit]]** | 81.5"/79""((To sheet metal/To the spar)) High \\ ---- \\ 72"/70.5"((To sheet metal/To the spar)) Mid \\ ---- \\ 56.9" Low((http://www.fleet.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/brochures/2015/2015_Transit_PIB.pdf)) | 118"((130WB)) 129"((148WB)), 158"((148WB Extended)) \\ (Measured from the driver's seat when fully back, to the rear cargo doors when closed) | 70.2((http://www.caranddriver.com/ford/transit/specs/2015/ford-transit/366434)) | 54.8" SRW, 44.5" DRW ((http://www.trucktrend.com/truck-reviews/163-1212-full-size-van-numbers/)) | 411.4'((148WB high roof)), 496.0'((148WB Extended high roof)) High \\ ---- \\ 317.3'((130WB medium roof)), 363.9'((148WB medium roof)) Medium \\ ---- \\ 247' ((130WB Low)), 278"((148WB low roof)) Low | | | | **[[rv:express|Express]]** | 52.9"((135WB, http://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/vehicles/express_cargo_van/2016.tab1.html)), 53.4"((155WB, http://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/vehicles/express_cargo_van/2016.tab1.html)) | 124.6"((135WB, http://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/vehicles/express_cargo_van/2016.tab1.html)), 146.2"((155WB, http://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/vehicles/express_cargo_van/2016.tab1.html)) | 72"((http://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/attachment.php?aid=11229)) | 52.7"((http://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/vehicles/express_cargo_van/2016.tab1.html)) | 239.7'((135", http://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/vehicles/express_cargo_van/2016.tab1.html)), 284.4'((155WB EXT, http://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/vehicles/express_cargo_van/2016.tab1.html)) | | | | **[[rv:ford_e-series|Ford E-Series]]** | 52.5" | 122"((138WB, https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas/topics/2014/14_ESeries_Van_Cutaway_SB_Updates_093013.pdf)), 142"((138WB EXT, https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas/topics/2014/14_ESeries_Van_Cutaway_SB_Updates_093013.pdf)) | 72.4"((at floor, https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas/topics/2014/14_ESeries_Van_Cutaway_SB_Updates_093013.pdf)) | 52.5"((https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas/topics/2014/14_ESeries_Van_Cutaway_SB_Updates_093013.pdf)) | 237.8' ((138WB, https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas/topics/2014/14_ESeries_Van_Cutaway_SB_Updates_093013.pdf)), 278.3"((138WB EXT, https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas/topics/2014/14_ESeries_Van_Cutaway_SB_Updates_093013.pdf)) | | | | | | | | | | | | | **NV200**((also sold as Chevrolet City Express)) | 53"((https://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/commercial/nv200-compact-cargo/compare-specs.html)) | 82.8"((https://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/commercial/nv200-compact-cargo/compare-specs.html)) | 54.8"((https://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/commercial/nv200-compact-cargo/compare-specs.html)) | 48"((https://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/commercial/nv200-compact-cargo/compare-specs.html)) | 127.7 cu ft((https://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/commercial/nv200-compact-cargo/compare-specs.html)) | | | | **Transit Connect** | 53.7" (first gen)((https://vandimensions.com/database/ford/transit-connect-1)), 49.7"((https://reefertekusa.com/photo-gallery/ford-refrigerated-vans/ford-transit-connect-specifications/)) (2nd gen) | 71.5"((SWB https://reefertekusa.com/photo-gallery/ford-refrigerated-vans/ford-transit-connect-specifications/)), 87.3"((LWB, https://reefertekusa.com/photo-gallery/ford-refrigerated-vans/ford-transit-connect-specifications/)) | | 48"((https://www.adriansteel.com/pdf/TrConnect-dimensions.pdf)) | 103.9 cu ft((RWB, https://www.ford.com/commercial-trucks/transit-connect-cargo-van/models/transit-connect-xl/)), 128.6 cu ft((LWB, https://www.ford.com/commercial-trucks/transit-connect-cargo-van/models/transit-connect-xlt/)) | | | | **Nissan Quest** | 40"((https://www.iseecars.com/car/2016-nissan-quest-dimensions)) | 86.5"((https://www.iseecars.com/car/2016-nissan-quest-dimensions)) | 63.2"((https://www.iseecars.com/car/2016-nissan-quest-dimensions)) | | 108.4 cu ft((https://www.iseecars.com/car/2016-nissan-quest-dimensions)) | 200.8"((https://www.iseecars.com/car/2016-nissan-quest-dimensions)) | | | **Promaster City** | 50"((https://www.adriansteel.com/pdf/ProMaster-City-dimensions.pdf)) | | 60.4"((https://www.adriansteel.com/pdf/ProMaster-City-dimensions.pdf)) | 48.4"((https://www.caranddriver.com/ram/promaster-city)) | 131.7 cu ft((https://www.caranddriver.com/ram/promaster-city)) | | | | **Mercedes-Benz Metris** | 55"((https://www.caranddriver.com/mercedes-benz/metris/specs)) | 105"((https://www.caranddriver.com/mercedes-benz/metris/specs)) | 66.3"((https://www.caranddriver.com/mercedes-benz/metris/specs)) | 50"((https://www.caranddriver.com/mercedes-benz/metris/specs)) | 183 cu ft((126" wb https://www.caranddriver.com/mercedes-benz/metris/specs)) | | | | Astro/Safari | 47.2"((https://sites.google.com/site/astrosafariinfo/interior/interior-dimensions)) | 97.2"((https://sites.google.com/site/astrosafariinfo/interior/interior-dimensions)) | 53.9"((https://sites.google.com/site/astrosafariinfo/interior/interior-dimensions)) | 50"((https://sites.google.com/site/astrosafariinfo/interior/interior-dimensions)) | 170.4 cu ft((https://www.iseecars.com/car/2000-chevrolet-astro_cargo_van-dimensions)) | | | During some model years fleet Sprinters have been available with a fiberglass-reinforced plastic 84" Mega / Super High roof.((https://sprinterguy.wordpress.com/2014/12/04/super-high-mega-roof-and-super-single-option-for-sprinter-vans-questions-and-answers/))((https://sprinter-source.com/wiki/index.php/Sprinter#Body)) There is some concern that the Mega roof may be unsuitable for camping due to an inability to support roof vents, A/C, solar mounts, etc.((http://www.sportsmobileforum.com/forums/f11/really-high-roof-sprinter-van-modification-13340.html#post131992)) A composite roof would also be susceptible to overhead limb damage in forested areas. ===== off pavement comparison ===== The [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Approach_and_departure_angles|approach and departure angles]] tells you how steep a grade you can drive onto or off without dragging the front or rear end, usually the bumper. Receiver hitches will usually reduce departure angle. ^ Model ^ Ground clearance ^ approach angle ^ departure angle ^ turning circle ^ | **NV** | **8.1"**((https://www.edmunds.com/nissan/nv-cargo/2015/van/features-specs/)) | 17.8°((https://www.edmunds.com/nissan/nv-passenger/2016/van/features-specs/)) | 16.7°((https://www.edmunds.com/nissan/nv-passenger/2016/van/features-specs/)) | 45.2'((http://carsort.com/cars/Nissan-NV2500-HD-competitors)) | | **Express 2500** | 7.1"((http://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/vehicles/express_cargo_van/2016.tab1.html)), 7.7"((3500, http://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/vehicles/express_cargo_van/2016.tab1.html)) | ° | ° | 49.2'((135WB, http://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/vehicles/express_cargo_van/2016.tab1.html)), 54.5'((155WB, http://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/vehicles/express_cargo_van/2016.tab1.html)) | | **E250** | 7.0" | 30°((https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas/non-html/1999/104.pdf)) | 16°((https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas/non-html/1999/104.pdf)) | 48.6'((https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas/topics/2014/14_ESeries_Van_Cutaway_SB_Updates_093013.pdf)) | | **Promaster** | 6.9" at rear axle | 18.6° | 20° | **36'**((136WB, http://www.allpar.com/trucks/ram/ProMaster.html)), **46.8'**((159WB, https://www.edmunds.com/ram/promaster-cargo-van/2015/features-specs/)) | | **Sprinter** | 6.9"((http://www.caranddriver.com/mercedes-benz/sprinter/specs/2016/mercedes-benz-sprinter/380432)) | 19°((https://www.edmunds.com/mercedes-benz/sprinter/2013/features-specs/)) | 13°((https://www.edmunds.com/mercedes-benz/sprinter/2013/features-specs/)) | 42'((140WB, http://www.trucktrend.com/truck-reviews/163-0501-2004-dodge-sprinter/)), 47'((158WB, http://www.trucktrend.com/truck-reviews/163-0501-2004-dodge-sprinter/)) | | **Transit** | 6.0"((RWB)), 6.1"((LWB))((https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas/topics/2016/16_Transit_SB.pdf)) at rear shock mounts. | ? | ~18° or 9° (Ext)((http://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/ford-transit-general-discussion/4018-rear-departure-angle.html#post52570)) | 39.2'((https://www.edmunds.com/ford/transit-van/2015/features-specs/)), 56.4'((148WB, https://www.edmunds.com/ford/transit-van/2015/features-specs/)) | | | | | | | | **NV200** | 6.5"((https://www.edmunds.com/nissan/nv200/2015/features-specs/)) | | | | | **Transit Connect** | 6"((SWB, https://www.ford.com/commercial-trucks/transit-connect-cargo-van/models/transit-connect-xl/)), 6.3"((LWB, https://www.ford.com/commercial-trucks/transit-connect-cargo-van/models/transit-connect-xl/)) | | | | | **Promaster CIty** | 5.1"((https://www.vehiclehistory.com/vehicle-ground-clearance-specifications/ram/promaster-city/2017)) | | | | | **MB Metris** | 4.4"((https://www.caranddriver.com/mercedes-benz/metris/specs)) | | | | ===== capacity comparison ===== ^ Model ^ fuel tank ^ | **[[rv:ford_e-series|E-Series]]** | **33 gal**((https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas/topics/2014/14_ESeries_Van_Cutaway_SB_Updates_093013.pdf)). Optional aux tap. | | **Express** | 31 gal ((http://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/vehicles/express_cargo_van/2016.tab1.html)) | | **NV** | 28 gal((https://www.edmunds.com/nissan/nv-passenger/2016/van/features-specs/)) | | **[[rv:ram_promaster|Promaster]]** | 24.0 gal.((https://www.edmunds.com/ram/promaster-cargo-van/2016/features-specs/)). Tapped for aux fuel use. | | **Sprinter** | 26.4 gal.((https://www.edmunds.com/mercedes-benz/sprinter/2013/features-specs/)) | | **[[rv:ford_transit|Transit]]** | 25.0 gal standard,((https://www.edmunds.com/ford/transit-van/2017/features-specs/)), 31 gal optional for 148" WB. Optional Aux Tap. | | | | | **NV200** | 14.5 gal((https://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/commercial/nv200-compact-cargo/compare-specs.html)) | ===== total Cost of Ownership comparison ===== Some calculations of gas Eurovans based on NADA information, originally from [[https://boondockplan.wordpress.com/2017/04/11/total-cost-of-ownership-vans/|this blog post]]. Sprinter left out but Express included; it was not a Eurovan-specific post. [[https://boondockplan.wordpress.com/2017/04/11/total-cost-of-ownership-vans/|{{https://boondockplan.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/5ytco.png}}]] ===== annual repair costs ===== Compiled from [[https://repairpal.com/|repairpal]] data, Jan 2020. **3/4 ton vans:** - Nissan NV1500, $825/yr - Ford Transit 150 , $963/yr - Chevy Express 1500, $972/yr - Ford E-250, $1070/yr - RAM Promaster 1500, $1072/yr - (no figures available for Sprinter) **minicargos:** - Nissan NV200, $645/yr - RAM Promaster City, $795/yr - Ford Transit Connect, $926 **minivans:** - Honda Odyssey, $547/yr - Toyota Sienna, $554/yr - Dodge Grand Caravan / Chrysler T&C, $646/yr - Nissan Quest, $659/yr ===== warranty comparison ===== ^Model^Basic^Powertrain^Misc^Transferable^Roadside Assistance^Towing to nearest service^ |**NV**|**5yr/100,000mi**((http://www.nissancommercialvehicles.com/media/pdf/2016-Nissan-NV-WIB.pdf))|**5yr/100,000mi**((http://www.nissancommercialvehicles.com/media/pdf/2016-Nissan-NV-WIB.pdf)) on gas powertrain|**5yr/unlimited body rust**((http://www.nissancommercialvehicles.com/media/pdf/2016-Nissan-NV-WIB.pdf))|yes((http://www.nissancommercialvehicles.com/media/pdf/2016-Nissan-NV-WIB.pdf))|3yr/36,000mi((http://www.nissancommercialvehicles.com/media/pdf/2016-Nissan-NV-WIB.pdf))|yes((http://www.nissancommercialvehicles.com/media/pdf/2016-Nissan-NV-WIB.pdf))| |**Promaster**|3yr/36,000mi|5yr/60,000mi on gas powertrain. 5yr/100,000mi on diesel powertrain.|n/a|Yes((https://www.ramtrucks.com/en/warranty/))|5yr/100,000mi|yes((https://www.ramtrucks.com/shared/pdf/warranty/2016-RAM_ProMaster_Gas_5_60-Generic_Warranty-3rd.pdf))| |**Sprinter**|3yr/36,000mi|5yr/100,000mi on diesel powertrain.((http://www.mbvans.com/sprinter/owners-resources/warranty-and-maintenance))|5yr/100,000mi on body rust|yes((http://assets.mbvans.com/Mercedes-Benz-Vans/Warranty-Maintenance/MY2016-MB-Sprinter-Service-and-Warranty-Guide.pdf))|3yr/36,000mi|yes((http://assets.mbvans.com/Mercedes-Benz-Vans/Warranty-Maintenance/MY2016-MB-Sprinter-Service-and-Warranty-Guide.pdf))| |**Transit**|3yr/36,000mi|5yr/60,000mi on gas powertrain. 5yr/100,000mi on diesel powertrain.((http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/brochures/2016-Car-Lt-Truck-Warranty-version-3_frdwa_EN-US_10_2015.pdf))|n/a|Yes((https://www.ramtrucks.com/en/warranty/))|5yr/100,000mi|up to 35mi((http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/brochures/2016-Car-Lt-Truck-Warranty-version-3_frdwa_EN-US_10_2015.pdf))| |**Express**|3yr/36,000mi|5yr/60,000mi on gas powertrain.|3yr/36,000mi corrosion \\ 5yr/100,000mi rust-through|Yes((http://www.chevrolet.com/owners/warranty))|5yr/60,000mi|yes| |**Ford E-series**((up to 2014))|3yr/36,000mi|5yr/60,000mi on gas powertrain((. 5yr/100,000mi on diesel powertrain.))|5yr/unlimited rust-through|||| ===== further reading ===== We're the Russos has [[https://weretherussos.com/van-chassis-camper-van-conversion/|an excellent article on eurovan pro/con]].