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--- camping:dispersed [2023/03/30 20:49]
frater_secessus [proving the length of your stay]
+++ camping:dispersed [2023/08/24 17:46] (current)
frater_secessus [length of stay]
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   * days 1-14 at Site 1
   * days 15-28 at Site 2
-  * days 29 back at Site 1
+  * day 29 back at Site 1
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   * days 1-14 at NF 1
-  * days 15-28 at NF 2
+  * days 15-28 at NF 2 (or non-NF land)
-  * days 29 - 30 at NF 3
+  * days 29 - 30 at NF 3 (or some other non-NF land)
   * day 31 - back to NF 1
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   * adhere to restrictions on fires and firewood
   * you can generally go through any unlocked gates you find on public land unless indicated otherwise.  If you find the gate open then leave it open.  If you find the gate closed, unlatch it and pass,then relatch after you are through. This will keep grazing animals from wandering off.
+  * you are allowed to //recreate// on public land but not //live// on it permanently.  So when talking to rangers you are traveling, camping, recreating, passing through, etc.
 ===== proving the length of your stay =====
-In some heavily-used BLM areas((like Quartzsite, AZ and Lake Havasu, AZ)) a free permit is mandatory;  it will show the date range you are allowed to stay. To get the permit check in with the civilian "camp host", usually positioned near a main entrance and flying a flag.  If the flag is up you can come up and sign in;  if they flag is down they are "off duty".
+In some heavily-used BLM areas((like Quartzsite, AZ and Lake Havasu, AZ)) a free permit is mandatory;  it will show the date range you are allowed to stay. To get the permit check in with the civilian "camp host", usually positioned near a main entrance and flying a flag.  If the flag is up you can come up and sign in;  if they flag is down they are "off duty".  Find a spot and watch to see when the flag goes up so you can register.
-In most areas the length of stay is on the honor system, perhaps spot-checked by rangers.  Sometimes rangers drive by noting vehicles or photographing plates.  If they see the same vehicle after the allowed number of days they know that camper is violating the rules.  It is also common for rangers just to chat or share local regs and information so don't be anxious if they stop to talk to you.
+In most areas the length of stay is on the honor system, perhaps spot-checked by rangers.  Sometimes rangers drive by noting vehicles or photographing plates.  If they see the same vehicle after the allowed number of days they know that camper is violating the rules.  It is also common for rangers just to chat or share local regs and information so don't be anxious if they stop to talk to you.  They may remind you of the rules but they do this routinely during contacts and is no judgement on you.
 It's not normally required or requested, but in areas with a great deal of lawless camping (or aggressive enforcement) you can distinguish yourself from squatters by keeping an especially-tidy campground and having supporting evidence for the duration of your stay:

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