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electrical:12v:alternator [2020/05/24 12:07]
frater_secessus [gotchas]
electrical:12v:alternator [2020/06/23 12:04]
frater_secessus [diode-based isolator]
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 Power from the alternator is shared with the house battery using an isolator ("Split charge relay" / SCR) of some sort.  This allows the [[electrical:12v:intro|house battery]] to charge but does not allow the house battery to pull power from the starter battery. Power from the alternator is shared with the house battery using an isolator ("Split charge relay" / SCR) of some sort.  This allows the [[electrical:12v:intro|house battery]] to charge but does not allow the house battery to pull power from the starter battery.
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 +==== manual switch ====
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 +[[https://amzn.to/2VaL8SG|{{https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81n-ap+0lPL._AC_UY218_.jpg?125 }}]]The simplest and least-featured isolator is a //manual switch//.
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 +Pro:  very little to go wrong.
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 +Con:  must be operated manually and one must remember to do so. Leaving the switch in the combined position when not driving will drain both the house and starter battery.
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 ==== constant-duty solenoid ==== ==== constant-duty solenoid ====
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   - DC-DC isolators (aka //[[electrical:12v:b2b|b2b]] isolators//) that boost alternator voltage to [[electrical:12v:charging|more appropriate levels for lead chemistries]] and can do multistage charging. These have [[electrical:12v:b2b|their own page]].   - DC-DC isolators (aka //[[electrical:12v:b2b|b2b]] isolators//) that boost alternator voltage to [[electrical:12v:charging|more appropriate levels for lead chemistries]] and can do multistage charging. These have [[electrical:12v:b2b|their own page]].
  
-==== diode-based isolator ====+==== solid state isolator:  diode-based ====
  
 Note:  this type of isolator is no longer common for our uses.  Note:  this type of isolator is no longer common for our uses. 
  
-[[http://amzn.to/2gVwmKw|Solid state isolators]] are electronic devices which use diodes to prevent depletion of the starter battery.  **Isolators are generally brick-shaped**.  Diode-based isolators have a **0.5v - 1v drop** between the alternator and house battery. This may be desirable if the house battery is a wants lower-voltage charging like [[electrical:12v:lifepo4_batteries_thread|LiFePO4]].  Some solid state isolaters use FETs and diodes in tandem to reduce voltage drop. \\ Note:  solid state relays can't combine batteries for self-jumpstarting.+[[http://amzn.to/2gVwmKw|These isolators]] are electronic devices which use diodes to prevent depletion of the starter battery.  **Isolators are generally brick-shaped**.  Diode-based isolators have a **0.5v - 1v drop** between the alternator and house battery. This may be desirable if the house battery is a wants lower-voltage charging like [[electrical:12v:lifepo4_batteries_thread|LiFePO4]].  Some solid state isolaters use FETs and diodes in tandem to reduce voltage drop. \\ Note:  solid state relays can't combine batteries for self-jumpstarting. 
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 +==== solid state isolator:  FET-based ====
  
 +This type of isolator is similar to the diode-based one above, except that FET components are used instead of diodes, preventing voltage drop.  
  
 +Example:  [[jump|Victron Argo 200A FET Battery Isolator]]
 ==== manual switch ==== ==== manual switch ====
  
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 **Idling the engine** to charge house batteries **can seriously overheat the alternator**.  It is usually cooled by wind from the vehicle's forward motion;  a fan may help cool the alternator. **Idling the engine** to charge house batteries **can seriously overheat the alternator**.  It is usually cooled by wind from the vehicle's forward motion;  a fan may help cool the alternator.
  
-In early morning when house battery voltage is lowest, a plain solenoid may unintentionally allow depleted batteries to pull down the starter battery.  Workarounds:  use a VSR, or start the vehicle immediately after inserting the key((ie, do not leave in the Accessory position which would drain the starter battery)).  +In early morning when house battery voltage is lowest, **a plain solenoid may unintentionally allow depleted batteries to pull down the starter battery**.  Workarounds:  use a VSR, or start the vehicle immediately after inserting the key((ie, do not leave in the Accessory position which would drain the starter battery)).  
  
-==== wiring ====+===== wiring =====
  
 2 gauge copper wire connecting the coach and house is recommended for most alternator charging installs.  SternWake recommends attaching at the alternator rather than the battery.((http://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/Thread-Charge-house-batteries-with-DC?pid=110652#pid110652)) 2 gauge copper wire connecting the coach and house is recommended for most alternator charging installs.  SternWake recommends attaching at the alternator rather than the battery.((http://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/Thread-Charge-house-batteries-with-DC?pid=110652#pid110652))
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 Note that you will only have to run the POS+ leg of wire to the house battery as the chassis ground is the other leg. Note that you will only have to run the POS+ leg of wire to the house battery as the chassis ground is the other leg.
  
-==== alternator hacks ===+===== alternator hacks =====
  
 There are ways to get the alternator to pump out more power: There are ways to get the alternator to pump out more power:
electrical/12v/alternator.txt · Last modified: 2024/04/26 17:11 by frater_secessus