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electrical:batterycide [2019/12/14 13:19]
frater_secessus [murdering flooded lead-acid]
electrical:batterycide [2020/07/08 12:28]
frater_secessus [murdering lithium]
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 +Words of Wisdom:
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 +> Over many years of capacity testing hundreds and hundreds of batteries, flooded, GEL and AGM I have yet to see a lead acid battery that could delivers its full storage potential at anything less than 0.75%((C/80)) in tail current at absorption voltage. MaineSail((https://marinehowto.com/how-fast-can-an-agm-battery-be-charged/))
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 ====== Battery murder ====== ====== Battery murder ======
  
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   * leaving them at [[electrical:12v:psoc|partial state of charge]], resulting in //irreversible// sulfation((AKA "hard" sulfation.  The battery undergoes "soft" sulfation and desulfation during normal charging/discharging.))   * leaving them at [[electrical:12v:psoc|partial state of charge]], resulting in //irreversible// sulfation((AKA "hard" sulfation.  The battery undergoes "soft" sulfation and desulfation during normal charging/discharging.))
     * not charging soon enough;  fully charging each day is best.      * not charging soon enough;  fully charging each day is best. 
-    * not charging fully; they need a [[electrical:12v:charging#absorption_stage|long Absorption stage]] at manufacturer-recommended voltage to reverse normally-occurring ("soft") sulfation.((http://support.rollsbattery.com/support/solutions/articles/5964-battery-sulfation))  \\ [[electrical:generator#charging_batteries|Generator-]] or [[electrical:12v:alternator|isolator-only]] charging can cause this unless the generator runs the necessary number of hours it takes to complete Absorption.  \\ Less commonly, [[electrical:solar|Solar]]-only charging can cause this problem if the [[electrical:solar:sizing|battery capacity is too great for the solar output]].+    * not charging fully; they need a [[electrical:12v:charging#absorption_stage|long Absorption stage]] at [[electrical:solar:charge_controller_setpoints|manufacturer-recommended voltage]] to reverse normally-occurring ("soft") sulfation.((http://support.rollsbattery.com/support/solutions/articles/5964-battery-sulfation))  \\ [[electrical:generator#charging_batteries|Generator-]] or [[electrical:12v:alternator|isolator-only]] charging can cause this unless the generator runs the necessary number of hours it takes to complete Absorption.  \\ Less commonly, [[electrical:solar|Solar]]-only charging can cause this problem if the [[electrical:solar:sizing|battery capacity is too great for the solar output]].
   * discharging too deeply.  Maximum discharge is typically limited to 50% [[electrical:depth_of_discharge|depth of discharge]].   * discharging too deeply.  Maximum discharge is typically limited to 50% [[electrical:depth_of_discharge|depth of discharge]].
   * allowing the cells to get low on distilled water.  Check them 1x/month or so until you learn their personality.   * allowing the cells to get low on distilled water.  Check them 1x/month or so until you learn their personality.
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-  * overvoltage.  [[electrical:12v:lifepo4_batteries_thread|13.8v is a safe upper limit]] and will charge the bank completely.  Some experienced folk use slightly higher voltages for faster charging but it must be terminated quickly as the bank approaches 100% state of charge.+  * overvoltage.  [[electrical:12v:lifepo4_batteries_thread|13.8v is a safe upper limit]] without BMS and will charge the bank completely.  Some experienced folk use slightly higher voltages for faster charging but it must be terminated quickly as the bank approaches 100% state of charge.  Exception:  Lithium banks with BMS typically overcharge intentionally to balance cells.  The overcharge is consumed by resistors and does not actually go into the cell.  
   * long periods of 100% state of charge;  cease all charging at 100% and only charge that high if you know some loads will be applied immediately.  Lithium chemistries do not care about partial state of charge so use that to your advantage.   * long periods of 100% state of charge;  cease all charging at 100% and only charge that high if you know some loads will be applied immediately.  Lithium chemistries do not care about partial state of charge so use that to your advantage.
   * exposure to high heat   * exposure to high heat
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