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frater_secessus [With Propane]
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-Like with almost all cooking in a van (and anything to do with generating heat), making coffee is much easier when using propane. Heating water on a stove uses no electricity, although it does require a bit more labor.+Like with almost all cooking in a van (and anything to do with generating heat), making coffee is much easier when using propane. Heating water on [[food:cooking:stoves|a camp stove]] uses no electricity, although it does require a bit more labor.
  
  
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 [[https://amzn.to/2J80jIK|Pour-over coffee makers]] are cones that hold a filter and grounds.  Hot water is poured over them usually in a few doses.  [[https://amzn.to/2TolXxr|Melitta]] is the most famous one.  They are typically made of unbreakable plastic and are relatively easy to clean.   [[https://amzn.to/2J80jIK|Pour-over coffee makers]] are cones that hold a filter and grounds.  Hot water is poured over them usually in a few doses.  [[https://amzn.to/2TolXxr|Melitta]] is the most famous one.  They are typically made of unbreakable plastic and are relatively easy to clean.  
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 +===== With electricity =====
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 +Electric coffee makers are possible, but are best used when connected to [[electrical:shore_power|shore power]].  They use a //lot// of power, particularly for [[camping:dispersed|boondockers]].((https://www.energystar.gov/sites/default/files/asset/document/ENERGY_STAR_Scoping_Report_Coffee_Makers.pdf))
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 +| |  **Small drip**|  **pod**|
 +|  **avg watts**|  740|  1200|
 +|  **inverter ineff.**|  74|  120|
 +|  **total watts**|  814|  1320|
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 +|  **Amps (W/13)**|  62.6|  101.5|
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 +|  **Ah per 5min use**|  5.2|  8.5|
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 +To compound the problem, coffee is usually brewed [[electrical:12v:charging#bulk_stage|in the early morning]] when batteries are most  [[electrical:depth_of_discharge|deeply discharged]].  This early morning load is bad enough for an [[electrical:solar:charge_controller#mppt|MPPT]]-charged system but it hamstrings a [[electrical:solar:charge_controller#pwm|PWM]]-charged system (for reasons [[electrical:solar:pwm_tweaking|explained here]]).
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 +If you run a [[electrical:generator|generator]] in the morning, that is a great time to use an electric coffeemaker.
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 +Heating the absolute minimum amount of water needed is a good way to conserve usage.  One option is a 12v hot water bottle such as https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JSOOD6Q
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 ===== without heat ===== ===== without heat =====
food/coffee.txt ยท Last modified: 2024/02/16 15:51 by frater_secessus

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