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food:cooking:stoves [2021/07/03 14:14]
frater_secessus [electric stoves] 		food:cooking:stoves [2022/02/05 17:47]
frater_secessus [electric stoves] added nuwave 600w
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 See [[https://decideoutside.com/camping-stove-fuels-explained-and-ranked/|this comparison]] that includes liquid fuels. See [[https://decideoutside.com/camping-stove-fuels-explained-and-ranked/|this comparison]] that includes liquid fuels.
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 +**Electric** stovetops, either traditional resistive or induction, have become popular because of the "clean and shiny" look and how pretty they are on Instagram.  However cooking with electricity is realistically only possible with shore power, or for those who have spent //tens of thousands// of dollars on their[[electrical:12v:intro| house electrical system]].
  
 There are other, sometimes more exotic fuels often used used by backpackers who watch their grams.   There are other, sometimes more exotic fuels often used used by backpackers who watch their grams.  
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 There are also [[https://amzn.to/3kkFSWE|ultralight stoves for isobutane]]((typically 80% isobutane / 20% propane for low temp performance)) containers, but the fuel is expensive so they are most often used only by hikers and backpackers for whom light weight is more important than fuel cost. [[https://amzn.to/3oUi7Zu|Lindal valve adapters]] can be used to run isobutane burners on propane or butane.  There are also [[https://amzn.to/3kkFSWE|ultralight stoves for isobutane]]((typically 80% isobutane / 20% propane for low temp performance)) containers, but the fuel is expensive so they are most often used only by hikers and backpackers for whom light weight is more important than fuel cost. [[https://amzn.to/3oUi7Zu|Lindal valve adapters]] can be used to run isobutane burners on propane or butane. 
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 Related:  [[https://thenextchallenge.org/guide-camping-gas-canisters/|guide to gaseous fuel connectors]] Related:  [[https://thenextchallenge.org/guide-camping-gas-canisters/|guide to gaseous fuel connectors]]
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 +For people who need to conserve space and who mainly use stoves to boil water, a [[https://amzn.to/2V8Odpq|JetBoil system]] makes efficient use of isobutane. 
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 ==== pressurized liquid fuel ==== ==== pressurized liquid fuel ====
  
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-==== sterno ====+
  
  
 ==== solid fuel ==== ==== solid fuel ====
  
-hexamine FIXME+=== sterno === 
 + 
 +Sterno is a jellied alcohol fuel.  It is rarely used in vandwelling because of the cost and because the flames are nearly invisible.  
 + 
 +=== hexamine === 
 +[[https://amzn.to/3hfujSd|{{ https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71RIkk1j2CL._AC_UY218_.jpg?125}}]] 
 +Hexamine bars or tablets ([[https://amzn.to/3hfujSd|esbit]], military surplus) are very expensive by the BTU produced (and relatively sooty-burning) but are lightweight and stable.  They make great additions to day packs and emergency bags. 
  
  
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 +===== electric stoves =====
 +[[http://amzn.to/2ong7cK|{{ https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41ffr0xXvFL._AC_US160_.jpg}}]][[http://amzn.to/2ong7cK|Electric stovetops]] are generally used by folks who use campsites with [[electrical:shore_power|electric hookups]], although [[electrical:generator|generator]] or big [[electrical:solar|solar]] setups with lithium banks are sometimes used.  
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 +Resistance and induction cooking both use 1000-2000w watts of power to run each "burner" although [[http://amzn.to/2owQKr9|the induction unit]] will be ~12% more efficient.((https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induction_cooking#Efficiency))  Note that plain hotplates run fine on Modified Sine Wave [[electrical:inverter|inverters]] but induction versions require pure sine wave.
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 +Although power is generally ON/OFF at full blast with temperature controlled  by varying the duty cycle, some induction units seem to use regulated amounts of power.  Of special note is [[https://amzn.to/3J9pYv8|the Nuwave Pic]] that allows manual choice of 600w, 900w, or the default 1,300w.
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 +[[https://amzn.to/35lutBo|Max Burton 6400 Digital Choice Induction Cooktop 1800 Watts]]((John H. Meyer review))
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 +  - 0w - 750w (cycles on/off)
 +  - 782w
 +  - 962w
 +  - 1140w
 +  - 1232w
 +  - 1312w
 +  - 1402w
 +  - 1484w
 +  - 1544w
 +  - 1623w
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 +[[https://www.irv2.com/forums/f259/winnebago-170a-487819.html#post5258607|True Induction double burner]] ((https://www.irv2.com/forums/f259/winnebago-170a-487819.html#post5258607))
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 +  - switches 0 - 627W
 +  - switches 0 - 734W
 +  - steady draw of 734W
 +  - 820W
 +  - 890W
 +  - 978W
 +  - 1067W
 +  - 1260W
 +  - 1436W
 +  - 1540W
 +
 +[[https://amzn.to/3AiRmmy|NuWave Precision Induction]] cooktop:((https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f14/induction-cook-top-and-inverter-compatibility-137997-2.html#post1699420))
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 +
 +  - Low = 100deg drew about 650 watts.
 +  - Med. low = 175deg drew about 650 watts
 +  - Medium = 275deg drew about 1030 watts
 +  - Med. High. = 375deg drew about 1300 watts
 +  - High = 425deg drew about 1580 watts
 +  - Max/Sear = 650deg drew about 1680 watts.
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 +=== laboratory hotplates ===
 +
 +Lab hotplates are similar to cooking hotplates only generally smaller using much less wattage.  They may not work for full-on cooking but might suffice for reheating/simmering.  See [[https://mouse.mousetrap.net/blog/2021/05/05/first-run-with-the-lab-hotplate/|this blog post]] by secessus. 
  
 ===== fuel cost ===== ===== fuel cost =====
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   * if cooking with organic fuels like firewood, use a [[https://amzn.to/32b9DSn|"rocket"]]-type gasifier or other efficient stove   * if cooking with organic fuels like firewood, use a [[https://amzn.to/32b9DSn|"rocket"]]-type gasifier or other efficient stove
   * maintain fuel stoves if it does not burn with a clear blue flame   * maintain fuel stoves if it does not burn with a clear blue flame
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 +===== further reading =====
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 +  * [[https://www.reddit.com/r/Backpackingstoves/comments/rilefi/alcohol_vs_gas_vs_jetboil_weight_analysis_on/|Alcohol VS gas VS Jetboil: weight analysis on multi-day hikes]]
food/cooking/stoves.txt · Last modified: 2024/03/31 14:21 by frater_secessus

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