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opinion:frater_secessus:how_much_excess_solar_power [2022/12/14 13:43]
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opinion:frater_secessus:how_much_excess_solar_power [2023/04/21 11:50] (current)
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 ====== How much extra solar power do I have? ====== ====== How much extra solar power do I have? ======
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-===== Pareto summary =====+===== TLDR =====
  
  
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-===== empirical testing ===== +===== direct testing =====
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-===== observation and prediction =====+
  
 +Plug it in and see if the solar can support it [[electrical:solar:offthepanel|without affecting the battery bank]].  Easy peasy.  
  
 +The downside is this is a YES/NO answer;  it tells you a specific load will run but does not tell you about how much power is actually available.  If you want to see the Bigger Picture then read on...
  
 +===== prediction =====
  
-==== overall system efficiency ====+==== looking up daily insolation (FSE) =====
  
-You can get feel for overall system efficiency by +Hours of Full Sun Equivalent (FSE) is convenient way to think of the amount of sunlight reaching the ground over the entire day.  4.5 hours of FSE means 4.5kWh of power reaching the ground per square meter.  
  
-   - watching your system over time, as described above +To predict daily harvest we will use
-   - comparing real-time harvest to theoretical harvest+
  
 +  * FSE
 +  * your panel wattage
 +  * and your system's overall efficiency
  
  
-===== average power harvest for a given time/place ===== 
  
-==== theoretical power available ==== 
  
-=== predicted daily harvest === 
  
  
 +==== calculating power available (W)  ====
  
-=== predicted harvest at a specific time === 
  
 Real-time harvest is a bit easier since there is no time component.  We are working in Watts (W) rather than Watt-hours (Wh). What we are doing is comparing the strength of sunlight reaching the ground (perpendicular) vs [[electrical:solar:output#zenith_angle|the cosine of the angle at which it actually strikes the ground]], or strikes a flat-mounted panel.  Real-time harvest is a bit easier since there is no time component.  We are working in Watts (W) rather than Watt-hours (Wh). What we are doing is comparing the strength of sunlight reaching the ground (perpendicular) vs [[electrical:solar:output#zenith_angle|the cosine of the angle at which it actually strikes the ground]], or strikes a flat-mounted panel. 
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 This cosine is [[https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/grad/solcalc/azel.html|calculable for a given time and place]].   This cosine is [[https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/grad/solcalc/azel.html|calculable for a given time and place]].  
  
-**Example**: if you have 200w of panels and calculated cosine is .70 then **140w of light is landing on your panels**. +**Example**: if you have 200w of panels and calculated cosine is .70 then **140w of direct light is landing on your panels** in clear skies
  
-==== system efficiency ====+==== finding and using system efficiency ====
  
 +For [[electrical:solar:output|various reasons]] your solar setup will not be able to harvest all the power landing on the panels. For systems with PWM controllers the percent harvested will be something like 70%.  For MPPT it might be 83%.  These constants will be placeholders you can use until you figure out your specific system's overall efficiency. 
  
 +You can see our system's overall efficiency at a given time:  //actual harvest / theoretical harvest// The numbers will jump around but over time you will start to see a pattern.  Maybe yours makes 80% or 86% over time.  Use that  number to **predict how your system will behave** in another time/place:  
  
-If observed 94w at that place/time the overall system efficiency would be 94w/116.2w = **80.9%**.  After you make many comparisons like this you will start to see a patter in your system's ability to harvest power.  If it's 81% over time we can start to multiply the solar zenith angle calculations above times 0.81 to predict how much power our particular system could make on average. +    panel wattage x system efficiency x cosine
  
-Continuing from the example above: 
  
->> your mppt controller typically yields 83% after derating, and the calculated cosine is .70 then you might expect ~116w in clear conditions at that time in that location. (200 x .83 x .7 = 116.2). +>> ...if your mppt controller typically yields 83% after derating, and the calculated cosine is .70 then you might expect ~116w in clear conditions at that time in that location. (200 x .83 x .7 = 116.2). 
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