User Tools

Site Tools


opinion:frater_secessus:lifepo4_charging_voltage

Differences

This shows you the differences between two versions of the page.

Link to this comparison view

Both sides previous revision Previous revision
Next revision
Previous revision
opinion:frater_secessus:lifepo4_charging_voltage [2023/07/21 23:18]
frater_secessus
opinion:frater_secessus:lifepo4_charging_voltage [2024/02/10 11:33] (current)
frater_secessus [the full process13.6v example
Line 3: Line 3:
 ====== Problems caused by lithium charging profiles ====== ====== Problems caused by lithium charging profiles ======
  
 +You'd think that a "lithium profile" would be suitable for lithium.  That may or may not be so for your particular use case.  Read on...
 ===== excessive charging voltage ===== ===== excessive charging voltage =====
    
Line 19: Line 19:
 ==== TLDR ==== ==== TLDR ====
  
-If this is the problem then reducing the charging voltage will cause the symptoms to improve or disappear.+If excessive charging voltage is the problem then reducing the charging voltage will cause the symptoms to improve or disappear.
  
 [[opinion:frater_secessus:pareto|about these summaries]] [[opinion:frater_secessus:pareto|about these summaries]]
Line 36: Line 36:
 LiFePO4 will fully charge at voltages as low as the mid-13s,  but it will take more time.  That extra time is called "Absorption duration"(("boost duration in Renogy- and EpEver-speak)).  At the kinds of current levels we usually see in offgrid charging((~0.2C)) the duration looks like this: LiFePO4 will fully charge at voltages as low as the mid-13s,  but it will take more time.  That extra time is called "Absorption duration"(("boost duration in Renogy- and EpEver-speak)).  At the kinds of current levels we usually see in offgrid charging((~0.2C)) the duration looks like this:
  
-  *  ≥14.0v will charge to 100% SoC with zero minutes of absorption durations: hit the voltage setpoint and //stop//. Cell voltages tend to diverge as charging voltage increases above 14.0v because they are further up the knee (see below)  +  *  ≥14.0v will charge to ~100% SoC with zero minutes of absorption durations: hit the voltage setpoint and //stop//. Cell voltages tend to diverge as charging voltage increases above 14.0v because they are further up the knee (see below)  
-  * 13.8v will charge to 100% SoC with a small amount of Absorption (10-30 minutes?) and cells tend to stay in balance. +  * 13.8v will charge to ~100% SoC with a small amount of Absorption (10-30 minutes?) and cells tend to stay in balance. 
-  * 13.6v will charge to 100% SoC with several hours of Absorption  <-- where we are starting +  * 13.6v will charge to ~100% SoC with several hours of Absorption ([[https://diysolarforum.com/threads/victron-dcdc-12-12-30-charger-no-bluetooth-on-new-install.78373/post-1003471|example]] with data)  <-- where we are starting
-  * 13.4v will //eventually// fully charge the bank but it would take days.  It takes so long we can use 13.4v as a Float voltage.+
  
  
Line 67: Line 66:
 This can be intentional behavior, caused by a Li profile that  This can be intentional behavior, caused by a Li profile that 
  
-charges to a high voltage (see above) +  - charges to a high voltage (see above) 
-then allows the battery to discharge until it hits the [[electrical:solar:charge_controller_setpoints|Rebulk setpoint]]... +  then allows the battery to discharge until it hits the [[electrical:solar:charge_controller_setpoints|Rebulk setpoint]]... 
-at which point it charges to the high voltage again+  at which point it charges to the high voltage again... 
 +  - rinse and repeat until the sun goes down
  
 During the discharge stage the controller will appear to stop working.  In reality it's waiting to hit that rebulk setpoint to start the party again.   During the discharge stage the controller will appear to stop working.  In reality it's waiting to hit that rebulk setpoint to start the party again.  
opinion/frater_secessus/lifepo4_charging_voltage.1689995919.txt.gz · Last modified: 2023/07/21 23:18 by frater_secessus