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rv:van_issues [2024/01/02 17:23]
princess_fluffypants [Ford E-Series] |
rv:van_issues [2024/01/27 16:04]
princess_fluffypants [Ford E-Series] |
| Generally very reliable, and 250,000+ miles can reasonably be expected without any major repairs. Relatively easy to work on and fix for the few things that do break. The exception being the diesel engines, however [[rv:diesel|this problem is not limited to Ford]]. | Generally very reliable, and 250,000+ miles can reasonably be expected without any major repairs. Relatively easy to work on and fix for the few things that do break. The exception being the diesel engines, however [[rv:diesel|this problem is not limited to Ford]]. |
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| * **The 6.0L and 6.4L diesel engines can have problems** | * **To say that the 6.0L diesel engine "has problems" is being polite** |
| * This is the exception to the line at the beginning of the article that said //"Only a small percentage of failures occur on any particular vehicles"//. [Princess Fluffypants says: "The failures rate on these engines is 100% once the vehicles reach 150,000 miles, and they should be avoided no matter how inexpensive they are. //Especially// on vans that have spent a lot of time idling (ambulances), $5,000+ repair bills are a guarantee."] | * This is the exception to the line at the beginning of the article that said //"Only a small percentage of failures occur on any particular vehicles"//. |
| * The International VT365 (rebadged as Ford 6.0L Powerstroke)(("has the reputation as being the worst diesel engine ever put into a pickup truck". https://www.reddit.com/r/vandwellers/comments/f0jzbt/is_it_a_bad_idea_to_get_a_diesel_van/fgweslt/)) was put into the 2004-2010 model year Ford E-Series vans/chassis. It has the reputation of being [[https://www.dieselworldmag.com/diesel-technology/why-the-6-0l-is-so-unreliable/|one of the worst engines ever used]] in a commercial vehicle. | * The International VT365 (rebadged as Ford 6.0L Powerstroke)(("has the reputation as being the worst diesel engine ever put into a pickup truck". https://www.reddit.com/r/vandwellers/comments/f0jzbt/is_it_a_bad_idea_to_get_a_diesel_van/fgweslt/)) was put into the 2004-2010 model year Ford E-Series vans/chassis. It has the reputation of being [[https://www.dieselworldmag.com/diesel-technology/why-the-6-0l-is-so-unreliable/|one of the worst engines ever used]] in a commercial vehicle. Multiple $5,000+ repair bills are a guarantee, //especially// on vans that have spent a lot of time idling (ambulances). |
| * Easy to steal | * Easy to steal |
| * A flat-head screwdriver and //maybe// a hammer is all that's needed to punch out a door lock, and there's no computer chip in the keys so if someone can turn the ignition cylinder by force (again not hard, screwdriver and maybe pliers), the engine will start. It is **highly recommended** to install a hidden kill switch (the start relay and/or fuel pump relays are popular), and to reinforce your door locks with kits such as the [[https://jimmijammer.com/Product,%20JJ.htm|Jimmy Jammer]]. | * A flat-head screwdriver and //maybe// a hammer is all that's needed to punch out a door lock, and there's no computer chip in the keys so if someone can turn the ignition cylinder by force (again not hard, screwdriver and maybe pliers), the engine will start. It is **highly recommended** to install a hidden kill switch (the start relay and/or fuel pump relays are popular), and to reinforce your door locks with kits such as the [[https://jimmijammer.com/Product,%20JJ.htm|Jimmy Jammer]]. |
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| * 2004-2007 3-valve 4.6L, 5.4L and 6.8L can experience spark plug breakage or head damage during removal.((http://assets.carcomplaints.com/docs/ford-tsb-08-7-6.pdf)) Changing at 50k miles instead of the stated 100k and using anti-seize may help prevent seizure. | * 2004-2007 3-valve 4.6L, 5.4L and 6.8L can experience spark plug breakage or head damage during removal.((http://assets.carcomplaints.com/docs/ford-tsb-08-7-6.pdf)) Changing at 50k miles instead of the stated 100k and using anti-seize may help prevent seizure. |
| * While these 3-valve engines were never installed in the vans, similar problems are reported on the 2-valve engines and the recommended change procedure still applies. | * While these 3-valve engines were never installed in the vans, many mechanics recommend the increased change frequency on the 2-valve engines as well. |
| * 2004-2011 3-val 5.4 Tritons with Variable Valve Timing can have timing chain, tensioner, or cam phaser issues -- listen for noises at startup.((https://autowise.com/common-problems-ford-5-4-triton-engine/)),((https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Modular_engine#Spark_plug_issues)),((https://www.reddit.com/r/vandwellers/comments/hw888i/2010_ford_e350_life_expectancy/fyy5uh8/)) | * 2004-2011 3-val 5.4 Tritons with Variable Valve Timing can have timing chain, tensioner, or cam phaser issues -- listen for noises at startup.((https://autowise.com/common-problems-ford-5-4-triton-engine/)),((https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Modular_engine#Spark_plug_issues)),((https://www.reddit.com/r/vandwellers/comments/hw888i/2010_ford_e350_life_expectancy/fyy5uh8/)) |
| * The 6.4L Powerstroke diesel engine was //slightly// less terrible than the 6.0, [[https://www.dieselworldmag.com/diesel-technology/why-the-6-4l-is-so-awful-awful/|but not by much]]. Vehicles using it are considered "throwaways" once they hit 150,000 miles. Most common vehicle-killing problems are failures of the DPF, high-pressure fuel pump or other emissions hardware, which are often cab-off repairs for a pickup truck((Meaning the entire cab of the truck has to be lifted up and off of the body/frame just to be able to access the parts that need replacing)). | * The 6.4L Powerstroke diesel engine was //slightly// less terrible than the 6.0, [[https://www.dieselworldmag.com/diesel-technology/why-the-6-4l-is-so-awful-awful/|but not by much]]. Vehicles using it are considered "throwaways". Most common vehicle-killing problems are failures of the DPF, high-pressure fuel pump or other emissions hardware, which are often cab-off repairs for a pickup truck((Meaning the entire cab of the truck has to be lifted up and off of the body/frame just to be able to access the parts that need replacing)). |
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