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--- camping:dispersed [2021/12/26 12:13]
frater_secessus [practical issues]
+++ camping:dispersed [2022/03/13 18:54]
frater_secessus [length of stay]
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 ==== length of stay ====
-While dispersed camping usually allows multiple night stays it is **not for squatting or building structures**.  You are expected to do your recreation then move on. The most common [[#rules_for_dispersed_camping|rule for dispersed camping]] in an area is //a 14 day stay, then relocate ≥25 miles away, and do not return for at least 28 days//.
+While dispersed camping usually allows multiple night stays it is **not for squatting or building structures**.  You are expected to do your recreation then move on.   Check the local district and signage for local regulations.
+The most common [[#rules_for_dispersed_camping|rule for dispersed camping in one place]] //a 14 day stay, then mandatory relocation ≥25 miles away, and do not return for at least 28 days//.  This means ≥3 sites are required for a rotation, and ≥43 days from Site 1 to Site 1:
+  * days 1-14 at Site 1
+  * days 15-28 at Site 2
+  * days 29- 42 at Site 3
+  * day 43 - back to Site 1
+In addition, many National Forest districts limit stays in any NF((or NF Ranger district)) to 14d in any 30d period.  This would require a ≥3 site rotation with ≥31 days from to NF 1 to NF 1.((NF 3 stay can be shorter but may complicate the rotation - see below))
+  * days 1-14 at NF 1
+  * days 15-28 at NF 2
+  * days 29 - 30 at NF 3
+  * day 31 - back to NF 1((this introduces problems with NF 2.  It may be easier to just return on day 43 as seen above))
 ==== services, or lack thereof ====
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 [[http://img.mousetrap.net/2020/IMG_20200401_084827.jpg|Nails may be present]] from the burning of wood pallets.
+Note:   California requires [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLO1eC7RgEk|a free permit]] for fires, including stoves.
 ==== timing your arrival ====
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 ==== US Bureau of Reclamation ====
-The USBR maintains some paid campgrounds.  [note:  secessus is currently researching the possibility of dispersed camping, but it doesn;t look promising.]
+The USBR maintains some paid campgrounds.  [note:  secessus is currently researching the possibility of dispersed camping, but it doesn;t look promising. -- UPDATE:  [[https://freecampsites.net/#!7590&query=sitedetails|Poverty Flats]] is reported to be USBR.]
 Their [[https://usbr.gov/recreation/overview.html|main site]] says:

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