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electrical:12v:deep_cycle_battery [2022/10/04 19:26] frater_secessus [Gel cell] betta teardown |
electrical:12v:deep_cycle_battery [2023/06/12 11:24] frater_secessus [FLA - Flooded Lead Acid] added watering |
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| === watering FLA === |
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| - check to ensure plates are at least //covered// with liquid |
| - charge fully |
| - check water level again, adding to fill mark |
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| This order is important because the electrolyte expands a bit as it charges, so filling completely //then// charging could result in spillage and loss of acid. |
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==== VRLA - Valve Regulated Lead Acid ==== | ==== VRLA - Valve Regulated Lead Acid ==== |
* no outgassing under normal conditions | * no outgassing under normal conditions |
* CON | * CON |
* generally **double the cost** of FLA for about 20% less capacity((http://www.trojanbattery.com/Tech-Support/FAQ/BatterySelection.aspx)) | * generally **double the cost** of FLA for similar capacity((http://www.trojanbattery.com/Tech-Support/FAQ/BatterySelection.aspx)) |
* Premium AGM need **much more charging current** than flooded, and it may be more than solar-only setups can provide.((http://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/Thread-How-much-of-an-issue-is-battery-off-gassing?pid=144704#pid144704)) The charging rate given by Lifeline, a respected AGM manufacturer, is //at least// C/5((20A per 100Ah of battery capacity)) or battery life will be affected. They also say it is ok to charge up to 5C((500A per 100Ah of battery capacity!)) (!).((http://lifelinebatteries.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/manual.pdf)) Odyssey specifies C/2.5 charging rates for their batteries.((40A per 100Ah of battery capacity))((http://www.odysseybattery.com/documents/ODYSSEY_Battery_Reconditioning_Charge_Procedure.pdf)) | * Premium AGM need **much more charging current** than flooded, and it may be more than solar-only setups can provide.((http://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/Thread-How-much-of-an-issue-is-battery-off-gassing?pid=144704#pid144704)) The charging rate given by Lifeline, a respected AGM manufacturer, is //at least// C/5((20A per 100Ah of battery capacity)) or battery life will be affected. They also say it is ok to charge up to 5C((500A per 100Ah of battery capacity!)) (!).((http://lifelinebatteries.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/manual.pdf)) Odyssey specifies C/2.5 charging rates for their batteries.((40A per 100Ah of battery capacity))((http://www.odysseybattery.com/documents/ODYSSEY_Battery_Reconditioning_Charge_Procedure.pdf)) |
* even cheap AGM require more current than flooded: minimum C/5, max C/3.(20A-33A per 100Ah of battery capacity). | * even cheap AGM require more current than flooded: minimum C/5, max C/3.(20A-33A per 100Ah of battery capacity). |
These appear to be an AGM variant with some gel: | These appear to be an AGM variant with some gel: |
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>> The plate group was taken apart, which showed that the separator is a standard AGM (absorbent glass | >> The plate group was taken apart, which showed that the separator is a standard AGM (absorbent glass mat) with double layer. Additionally, a very small amount of gellified electrolyte was found on top of the plates. -- - [[https://www.dropbox.com/s/zz7vf6k8y36btfq/Memo%20%28internal%29%20Betta%20Lead%20Crystal%2026032013.pdf?dl=0|leaked pdf describing a Betta battery teardown]] |
mat) with double layer. Additionally, a very small amount of gellified electrolyte was found on top of the | |
plates. -- - [[https://www.dropbox.com/s/zz7vf6k8y36btfq/Memo%20%28internal%29%20Betta%20Lead%20Crystal%2026032013.pdf?dl=0|leaked pdf describing a Betta battery teardown]] | |
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The "Lead crystal" name appears to refer to the gel component, since manufacturers typical claim the electrolyte is made of SiO2.((http://azimuthsolar.ca/getting-silicon-dioxide-sio2-batteries-charging-instructions/)),((https://www.solarpaneltalk.com/forum/solar/the-pros-and-cons-of-solar-energy/22713-why-are-there-no-lead-crystal-battery-distributors-in-the-usa-or-canada?p=272482#post272482)) | The "Lead crystal" name appears to refer to the gel component, since manufacturers typical claim the electrolyte is made of SiO2.((http://azimuthsolar.ca/getting-silicon-dioxide-sio2-batteries-charging-instructions/)),((https://www.solarpaneltalk.com/forum/solar/the-pros-and-cons-of-solar-energy/22713-why-are-there-no-lead-crystal-battery-distributors-in-the-usa-or-canada?p=272482#post272482)) |