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===== Depth of discharge / State of Charge ===== | ===== Depth of discharge / State of Charge ===== | ||
- | {{ http://popupbackpacker.com/ | + | //Depth-of-discharge// (DoD or DOD) refers to how low a deep cycle battery is taken between [[electrical: |
- | For solar powered systems the greatest | + | DoD is the inverse of //State of Charge |
- | DoD has a **significant impact on longevity of deep cycle batteries**. | + | Note: This information is primarily relevant to lead-chemistry |
- | ===== effect of SoC on battery life ===== | + | |
- | How deeply one regularly discharges lead-chemistry batteries will have a **direct effect on how long the battery bank will last**.((Banks are typically replaced when they have lost 20% of their capacity)) | ||
+ | ===== knowing when SoC is 100% (fully charged) ===== | ||
- | The **most common discharge limit for deep cycle batteries is 50% DoD**. | ||
- | Based on the following data on the Trojan T-105: | + | With **lead batteries** we know the battery is 100% when |
- | * lowest cost per Ah happens | + | |
- | * longest life happens | + | * we are holding Absorption voltage; and |
- | * least battery weight happens | + | * current acceptance has decreased to 0.02C, or about 2% of the rated capacity |
- | so make your DoD decision based on what is most important | + | |
+ | So for a 225Ah Trojan T-105 that might be when current acceptance drops to **4.5A at 14.8v**. | ||
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+ | Mythbusting: | ||
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+ | With **lithium batteries** humans might use use amp-counting with [[electrical: | ||
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+ | * at moderate charging rates like 0.2C((20A for a 100Ah LFP)) SoC will be ~100% when voltage rises to 14.0v | ||
+ | * at moderate charging rates SoC will be ~100% when voltage rises to 13.8v and we add perhaps 30 minutes of Absorption duration. | ||
+ | * at moderate charging rates and voltages between ≥13.4v and <13.8v SoC will be ~100% after some amount of Absorption. | ||
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+ | ==== soft and firm charging ==== | ||
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+ | Solar is typically a moderate (or " | ||
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+ | So while we can say with confidence that a 100Ah Li battery charged at 20A to 14.0v will be ~100% SoC, the same battery charged to 14.0v at 80A might only be at 75% SoC. And it **could get damagingly overcharged** if charged to 14.0v very gently at something like 5A.((the BMS cannot detect this scenario)) | ||
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+ | The amp counter will probably help here during charging although even it can be thrown off; see the battery monitor article for more on this. | ||
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+ | ===== estimating SoC while resting ===== | ||
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+ | A rested (no load), fully charged, unFloated lead battery will be 100% around 12.7v-12.8v; | ||
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+ | The famous chart to the right is used to estimate SoC of a rested battery after a full charge. | ||
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+ | A rested (no load), fully charged, unFloated lithium battery will be 100% around 13.5-13.6v. | ||
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+ | As we will see below SoC-by-voltage will appear to be **artificially high during charging**((voltage rise)) and **artificially low during discharging**((voltage sag)). | ||
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+ | ==== SoC by specific gravity ==== | ||
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+ | > "The truest measure of a [lead chemistry] battery' | ||
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+ | Only flooded-type batteries are practical for SoC assessment by SG of the electrolyte. | ||
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+ | * temperature of the battery | ||
+ | * SG chart from the battery manufacuturer | ||
+ | * [[https:// | ||
- | | | **T105 Ah**| | **Cost**| | ||
- | | | 225| | $260.00| | ||
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- | | **DoD**| | ||
- | | 10| 90| 22.5| | | | | | | | ||
- | | 20| 80| 45| 3000| 135| $1.93| | ||
- | | 30| 70| 67.5| 2250| 151.875| | ||
- | | 40| 60| 90| 1450| 130.5| | ||
- | | 50| 50| 112.5| | ||
- | | 60| 40| 135| 1050| 141.75| | ||
- | | 70| 30| 157.5| | ||
- | | 80| 20| 180| 800| 144| $1.81| | ||
- | One can choose to [[electrical: | ||
- | ===== SoC by amps ===== | + | ==== SoC by amps ==== |
A [[electrical: | A [[electrical: | ||
+ | Note that deep cycle battery [[electrical: | ||
- | ===== SoC by voltage ===== | + | |
+ | ==== SoC by voltage ==== | ||
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+ | Note: read [[https:// | ||
100% SoC (~12.7v) is measured [[electrical: | 100% SoC (~12.7v) is measured [[electrical: | ||
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* intermittent heavier loads that leave the system with measured >=12.2v when that load is removed | * intermittent heavier loads that leave the system with measured >=12.2v when that load is removed | ||
- | ===== SoC by specific gravity | + | ===== estimating |
- | > "The truest measure of a battery' | + | The more challenging task is judging SoC (including for LVD purposes) under heavier loads. |
- | Only flooded-type batteries are practical SoC assessment by SG of the electrolyte. | + | Consider |
- | * temperature of the battery | + | {{ https://i.stack.imgur.com/bm93G.jpg}} |
- | * SG chart from the battery manufacuturer | + | |
- | * [[https://amzn.to/3dOHGEU|battery SG tester (hydrometer)]] | + | |
+ | For a 200A bank 50% DoD would be 12.1v at rest, ~12.0v at C/10 (20A discharge), ~11.55v at C/5 (40A discharge), and 11.2v at C/3 (~70A discharge). | ||
+ | It may take experimentation with your system to see where the battery voltage rebounds after removing the heavy loads. | ||
+ | - apply expected load | ||
+ | - run battery down to 11.5v (then 11.25, 11, 10.75, 10.5 etc until battery no longer rebounds to 12.1-12.2v) | ||
+ | - remove load | ||
+ | - observe battery voltage | ||
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+ | If the battery rebounds to the desired voltage then repeat to deeper discharge. | ||
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+ | **Lithium batteries** also exhibit voltage sag under load but typically much less than AGM or especially FLA. An [[electrical: | ||
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+ | ===== estimating SoC while charging ===== | ||
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+ | Similar to voltage sag during discharge, batteries exhibit voltage //surge// or //rise// during charging. | ||
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This section [[electrical: | This section [[electrical: | ||
+ | ===== effect of DoD on lead battery life ===== | ||
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+ | How deeply one regularly discharges lead-chemistry batteries will have a **direct effect on how long the battery bank will last**.((Banks are typically replaced when they have lost 20% of their capacity)) | ||
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+ | The **most common discharge limit for deep cycle batteries is 50% DoD**. | ||
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+ | Based on the following data on the Trojan T-105: | ||
+ | * lowest cost per Ah happens at 30% DoD | ||
+ | * longest life happens at 20% DoD | ||
+ | * least battery weight happens at 80% DoD | ||
+ | so make your DoD decision based on what is most important to you. | ||
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+ | | | **T105 Ah**| | **Cost**| | ||
+ | | | 225| | $260.00| | ||
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+ | | **DoD**| | ||
+ | | 10| 90| 22.5| | | | | | | | ||
+ | | 20| 80| 45| 3000| 135| $1.93| | ||
+ | | 30| 70| 67.5| 2250| 151.875| | ||
+ | | 40| 60| 90| 1450| 130.5| | ||
+ | | 50| 50| 112.5| | ||
+ | | 60| 40| 135| 1050| 141.75| | ||
+ | | 70| 30| 157.5| | ||
+ | | 80| 20| 180| 800| 144| $1.81| | ||
+ | One can choose to [[electrical: | ||
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+ | ===== lithium SoC ===== | ||
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+ | Lithium chemistries have very flat voltage curves, making it notoriously difficult to gauge SoC by voltage. |