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--- rv:van_issues [2023/01/05 13:33]
frater_secessus [RAM Promaster]
+++ rv:van_issues [2023/02/09 19:51]
princess_fluffypants [Mercedes Sprinter]
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   * Body rust issues until 2017 (?) - Metallic colors may have received better clearcoat.
-  * 2008+ diesel emissions control:  [[https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/fatal-flaw-mercedes-benz-sprinters-tom-robertson|the "fatal flaw"]]. Repairs easily run [[https://www.reddit.com/r/VanLife/comments/ews1r4/hit_with_the_most_intense_mechanics_bill/|into the thousands]] See also [[rv:diesel|The Problems with Diesel]].
+  * 2008+ diesel emissions control:
+    * AKA [[https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/fatal-flaw-mercedes-benz-sprinters-tom-robertson|the "fatal flaw"]].
+    * 2008-2018 model years are particularly problematic due to the location of the components. They are very tightly packed and there isn't much airflow in the area, leading to heat buildup that eventually cooks the DEF tank/heater and exhaust particulate filter.  This is made worse when subjected to long periods of idling.
+    * The tight packaging makes for very difficult to access for repairs/replacement, requiring sometimes dozens of hours of labor. Repair bills can easily run [[https://www.reddit.com/r/VanLife/comments/ews1r4/hit_with_the_most_intense_mechanics_bill/|into the thousands]].
+    * For the 2019 model year, the system underwent significant redesign and anecdotal reports have been generally positive, with increase reliability and easier to access components. However it will always be an [[rv:diesel|achilles heel of any modern diesel]].
   * fuel injector [[https://sprintergurus.com/fuel-injector-black-death/|"black death"]]
   * T1N:  glow plug seizure in cylinder head
   * pay close attention to [[https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.5_en.html|M-B specs for engine oils]].  [[https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/d/d/en/Spec_223_2.pdf|Which spec goes with which engine]].
-  * Service may be difficult to locate. When found the parts and hourly rate are expensive, particularly at M-B dealerships.
+  * Service may be difficult to locate; not all M-B dealers can work on the Sprinter vans and some do not work on *any* vehicle over 10 years old.
+  * Parts and hourly rate are expensive, particularly at M-B dealerships. Many repairs (especially regarding the emission systems on 2010+ vans) are locked behind proprietary computer systems that are only available at a dealership.

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