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electrical:12v:intro [2024/12/24 14:58]
frater_secessus [avoiding beginner mistakes] added further reading
electrical:12v:intro [2026/08/12 04:31] (current)
princess_fluffypants [sources of house power]
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 +>> A. B. C.  \\ A - always.  \\ B - be. \\ C - charging.  \\ Always be charging. //Always// be charging.  -- [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz246_Pjjkc|Glengarry Glen Ross]] (paraphrased)
  
-Most campervans use [[electrical:solar:gentle_intro|solar]] combined with another charging source, usually the van'[[electrical:12v:alternator|alternator]].   [[electrical:12v:alt_and_solar|This combination]] can be both cheap and highly effective((Isolators are inexpensive, and the combination allows one to run much smaller solar configurations than if one were charging by solar alone))+ 
 +Most 'dwellers use [[electrical:solar:gentle_intro|solar]] combined with another charging source, usually the  [[electrical:12v:alternator|alternator]].   [[electrical:12v:alt_and_solar|This combination]] can be both cheap and highly effective((Isolators are inexpensive, and the combination allows one to run much smaller solar configurations than if one were charging by solar alone))
  
 Before you spend money on making/storing power in your vehicle, be sure to leverage other sources: Before you spend money on making/storing power in your vehicle, be sure to leverage other sources:
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 | [[electrical:shore_power|shore power]] (outlet)   | cheapest per watt \\ simple \\ abundant power                                                                                                 | often not available \\ if available you are tied to the outlet by your cord/adapter \\ campgrounds with outlets are more expensive                             | | [[electrical:shore_power|shore power]] (outlet)   | cheapest per watt \\ simple \\ abundant power                                                                                                 | often not available \\ if available you are tied to the outlet by your cord/adapter \\ campgrounds with outlets are more expensive                             |
 | [[electrical:solar|solar]]                        | automatically makes power when the sun shines \\ makes high voltages needed to fully charge lead-acid batteries\\ silent\\ lasts for decades  | most expensive per watt \\ can be complex\\ panels are large\\ [[electrical:solar:output|output]] drops dramatically [[electrical:solar:shading|when shaded]]  | | [[electrical:solar|solar]]                        | automatically makes power when the sun shines \\ makes high voltages needed to fully charge lead-acid batteries\\ silent\\ lasts for decades  | most expensive per watt \\ can be complex\\ panels are large\\ [[electrical:solar:output|output]] drops dramatically [[electrical:solar:shading|when shaded]]  |
-| [[electrical:12v:alternator|alternator]]          | automatically makes power when driving\\ about 1/10th the cost of solar for the same current output                                           | can result in [[electrical:12v:psoc|chronic undercharging]] of lead-acid\\ should not [[rv:idling|idle]] to charge\\ pulling wire can be challenging           |+| [[electrical:12v:alternator|alternator]]          | automatically makes power when driving\\ about 1/10th the cost of solar for the same current output\\ Can produce a LOT of power very quickly, especially on newer vehicles.\\ Great for getting some bulk charge into deeply discharged lead or lithium batteries                                         | can result in [[electrical:12v:psoc|chronic undercharging]] of lead-acid\\ should not [[rv:idling|idle]] to charge\\ pulling wire can be challenging           |
 | alternator ([[electrical:12v:ports|ciggy port]])  | available on all vehicles                                                                                                                     | typically limited to 10A (120-150w, see [[electrical:12v:alternator#isolator_without_a_house_battery|this end-around]]).                                       | | alternator ([[electrical:12v:ports|ciggy port]])  | available on all vehicles                                                                                                                     | typically limited to 10A (120-150w, see [[electrical:12v:alternator#isolator_without_a_house_battery|this end-around]]).                                       |
 | [[electrical:generator|generator]]                | can make 1000w+ of 120v \\ can run for days \\ inverter models are quieter                                                                    | can be expensive ($1000+) \\ maintenance \\ needs to be stored when not in use\\ noisy \\ not allowed in some areas/times                                      | | [[electrical:generator|generator]]                | can make 1000w+ of 120v \\ can run for days \\ inverter models are quieter                                                                    | can be expensive ($1000+) \\ maintenance \\ needs to be stored when not in use\\ noisy \\ not allowed in some areas/times                                      |
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