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--- electrical:solar:pvwatts [2023/06/16 17:23]
frater_secessus [how much panel do I need to make X watt-hours?]
+++ electrical:solar:pvwatts [2025/04/05 22:39] (current)
frater_secessus [PVWatts]
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 You can use [[https://pvwatts.nrel.gov/index.php|PVWatts]] to find solar harvest estimates for a particular place, month, array size, etc.  You can use this info to
- - find out how much power your
+  - find out how much panel is required to make a certain amount of Watt-hours (Wh) daily; or
+  - find out how much power your existing solar setup can make
+**IMPORTANT:**  if you are depending on solar the system wattage **must be sized for location and least-sunny month** in which you will be camping.  For full-timers in the northern hemisphere this is **wherever you will be in December**.
+**Caveats:**  the estimation method describe below assumes **the panels will have a clear view of sky**.  No shade from trees, buidings, or [[opinion:frater_secessus:beginner_mistakes#mounting_or_deploying_panels_where_they_will_be_shaded|other things mounted on your van]].  No snow build-up on the panels, etc.
+===== how much panel do I need to make X watt-hours? =====
-===== how much energy can my system harvest? =====
+==== GET STARTED ====
-==== choose a location ====
+First, [[https://pvwatts.nrel.gov/index.php|pick a location]] using the search bar:
-First, pick a location using the search bar:
 {{https://img.mousetrap.net/misc/pvwatts0.jpg}}
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 ==== SOLAR RESOURCE DATA ====
+This page shows you the location it selected.  Accept the default unless it needs correcting.
-==== system info ====
+==== SYSTEM INFO ====
-We need to make a couple changes here
+Change TILT to 0, and accept the other defaults on this page.  The other settings won't make a difference for what we want (Hours of **F**ull **S**un **E**quivalent (FSE), which will be given on the next page).
-  * your array size in **kW**.  A kilowatt is 1,000w, so a 200w = 0**.**2kW (zero-point-two)((the calculator is set up like this because it is designed to model large residential and commercial installations that are measured in kW))
-  * accept the default losses for MPPT systems.  PWM systems should use something like 30%
-  * if your panels are flat (most are) adjust tilt to zero
+==== RESULTS ====
-{{https://img.mousetrap.net/misc/pvwatts-annotated.jpg}}
+The results has three columns:  month, solar radiation (aka FSE), and AC Energy.  We want that middle column.  We will use the lowest FSE for any month we will be camping. For fulltimers this will usually be December.
+==== using the results ====
+Run the arithmetic below, using 0.85 for overall system efficiency with MPPT and 0.7 with PWM.
+    Wh required / "Solar Radiation" (FSE) / overall system efficiency
+==== example ====
-==== results ====
+[[https://img.mousetrap.net/misc/stuttgartFSE.jpg|{{ https://img.mousetrap.net/misc/thumbs/stuttgartFSE.jpg}}]]
-The first column is kWh/square meter/**day**, AKA Hours of Full Sun Equivalent (FSE).
+You need 900Wh/day.  You live in Stuttgart, Germany and the lowest FSE in a month you will be camping is 2.37 October.  You have an MPPT [[electrical:solar:charge_controller|solar charge controller]].
-The second column is kWh harvested per **month**. To find average maximal harvest per day divide this figure by the number of days in that month.
+So 900Wh / 2.37 / 0.85 = **446.76w** of flat-mounted panel. Round up to 450w or 500w, whatever is available.
-Example:  In January in this location the system could make 17kWh.  17 divided by 31 days = 0.548kWh/day,  (**548Wh/day**).
-{{https://img.mousetrap.net/misc/pvwatts2-annotated.jpg}}
-Note:  the 2nd column is //rounded to whole numbers//.  This makes little difference with large residential installs but can distort the result with our small systems.  You can use the FSE number to do the math for your setup directly:
-  FSE x array wattage x ((100 - system losses) / 100)
-...which gives a more precise **605Wh/day**.  You may want to plug that formula into a spreadsheet for easy re-use.The system losses will be 14.08 or 30.0 as above, depending on the controller.
-===== how much panel do I need to make X watt-hours? =====
-  - pick your location in PVwatts [[:#choose_a_location|as shown above]]
-  - accept the default system
-  - look up the "Solar Radiation" value((aka "hours of full sun equivalent")) (second column) for //the worst month you will be camping in//.  For full-timers this usually means December.
-   - run the arithmetic below, using 0.85 for overall system efficiency with MPPT and 0.7 with PWM.
-    Wh required / "Solar Radiation" / overall system efficiency
-==== example ====
-[[https://img.mousetrap.net/misc/stuttgartFSE.jpg|{{ https://img.mousetrap.net/misc/thumbs/stuttgartFSE.jpg}}]]
-You need 900Wh/day.  You live in Stuttgart, Germany and the lowest FSE in a month you will be camping is 2.37 hours of FSE in October.  You have an MPPT [[electrical:solar:charge_controller|solar charge controller]].
-So 900Wh / 2.37 / 0.85 = **446.76w** of flat-mounted panel.
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+===== how much energy can my system harvest? =====
+==== GET STARTED ====
+First, pick a location using the search bar:
+{{https://img.mousetrap.net/misc/pvwatts0.jpg}}
+=== SOLAR RESOURCE DATA ===
+This page shows you the location it selected. Accept the default unless it needs correcting.
+==== SYSTEM INFO ====
+We need to make a couple changes to the defaults here:
+  * your array size in **kW**.  A kilowatt is 1,000w, so a 200w = 0**.**2kW (zero-point-two)((the calculator is set up like this because it is designed to model large residential and commercial installations that are measured in kW))
+  * accept the default losses for MPPT systems.  PWM systems should use something like 30%((PWM doesn't really have 30% losses in the system;  on average it leaves ~30% unharvested.  The end result is the same, math-wise))
+  * if your panels are flat (most are) adjust tilt to zero
+{{https://img.mousetrap.net/misc/pvwatts-annotated.jpg}}
+==== RESULTS ====
+The second column is kWh/square meter/**day**, AKA Hours of Full Sun Equivalent (FSE).
+The third column is kWh harvested per **month**. To find average harvest per day divide this figure by the number of days in that month.
+Example:  In January in this location the system could make 17kWh.  17 divided by 31 days = 0.548kWh/day,  (**548Wh/day**).
+{{https://img.mousetrap.net/misc/pvwatts2-annotated.jpg}}
+Note:  the 3rd column is //rounded to whole numbers//.  This makes little difference with large residential installs but can distort the result with our small systems.  You can use the FSE number to do the math for your setup more accurately:
+  FSE x array wattage x ((100 - system losses) / 100)
+...which gives a more precise **605Wh/day**.  You may want to plug that formula into a spreadsheet for easy re-use.  The system losses will be 14.08 or 30.0 as above, depending on the controller.

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