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food:cooking:stoves [2022/02/05 17:47]
frater_secessus [electric stoves] added nuwave 600w
food:cooking:stoves [2024/08/06 17:18] (current)
frater_secessus [resistance vs induction comparision] added small units
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-The simplest hiking stove is a "penny" alcolhol stove, so called because in some variants a penny is used to cover the fill holes.+The simplest hiking stove is [[https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=penny+stove|a "penny" alcohol stove]], so called because in some variants a penny is used to cover the fill holes.
  
  
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 [[http://amzn.to/2ong7cK|{{ https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41ffr0xXvFL._AC_US160_.jpg}}]][[http://amzn.to/2ong7cK|Electric stovetops]] are generally used by folks who use campsites with [[electrical:shore_power|electric hookups]], although [[electrical:generator|generator]] or big [[electrical:solar|solar]] setups with lithium banks are sometimes used.   [[http://amzn.to/2ong7cK|{{ https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41ffr0xXvFL._AC_US160_.jpg}}]][[http://amzn.to/2ong7cK|Electric stovetops]] are generally used by folks who use campsites with [[electrical:shore_power|electric hookups]], although [[electrical:generator|generator]] or big [[electrical:solar|solar]] setups with lithium banks are sometimes used.  
  
-Resistance and induction cooking both use 1000-2000w watts of power to run each "burner" although [[http://amzn.to/2owQKr9|the induction unit]] will be ~12% more efficient.((https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induction_cooking#Efficiency))  Note that plain hotplates run fine on Modified Sine Wave [[electrical:inverter|inverters]] but induction versions require pure sine wave.+==== resistance vs induction comparision ====
  
 +|                       ^ resistance                                                                          ^ induction                                                                                  ^
 +| price                 | less expensive                                                                      | more expensive                                                                             |
 +| inverter requirement  | MSW or PSW                                                                          | PSW only                                                                                   |
 +| efficiency            | 75-80%                                                                              | 85%                                                                                        |
 +| temperature control   | on/off thermostat.  Heat output can be adjusted [[electrical:triac|with a triac]].  | on/off thermostat.  Some models have variable power (see below)                            |
 +| cookware              | any                                                                                 | induction-compatible only.  If it strongly attracts a magnet it will work with induction.  |
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 +Resistance and induction cooking both use 1000-2000w watts of power to run each "burner" although [[http://amzn.to/2owQKr9|the induction unit]] will be 5-10% more efficient.((https://www.energystar.gov/partner_resources/products_partner_resources/brand-owner/eta-consumers/res-induction-cooking-tops))  
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 +=== metrics for induction cookers with variable power ===
  
  
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   - Max/Sear = 650deg drew about 1680 watts.   - Max/Sear = 650deg drew about 1680 watts.
  
-=== laboratory hotplates ===+=== lower-wattage induction cooktops for portable use === 
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 +Most of these are sized for pots with flat 4"-6" bottoms.  
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 +  * 700w-200w "in six steps"((presumably 700w/600w/500w/400w/300w/200w)) - [[https://amzn.to/4dvi26h|GastroGear]].  6 temperature settings (176°F-266°F) 
 +  * 500w/300w/250w - [[https://amzn.to/4danICZ|JOZOOES]].  No temperature control. 
 +  * 500w/400w/300w/200w/100w - [[https://amzn.to/3WTBBQw|Abangdun (square)]]. No temperature control. 
 +  * 500w/400w/300w/200w/100w [[https://amzn.to/3LUtfSd|Abangdun (round)]]. As above in different form factor and touch/slide controls.   
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-Lab hotplates are similar to cooking hotplates only generally smaller using much less wattage.  They may not work for full-on cooking but might suffice for reheating/simmering.  See [[https://mouse.mousetrap.net/blog/2021/05/05/first-run-with-the-lab-hotplate/|this blog post]] by secessus.  
  
 ===== fuel cost ===== ===== fuel cost =====
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   * check food at the minimum cook time to see if it's already done, or is done enough it can be removed from heat   * check food at the minimum cook time to see if it's already done, or is done enough it can be removed from heat
   * reduce heat as much as possible when maintaining simmers   * reduce heat as much as possible when maintaining simmers
 +  * reduce ingredient thickness (smaller slices, thinner pastas like angel hair)
   * use windbreaks to keep heat focused on the pot   * use windbreaks to keep heat focused on the pot
   * use a pot wide enough to take the whole flame;  flames that go up the side of the pot are not performing useful work.  Note:  excessively wide pans can overheat the fuel tank of sportster-style stoves (above).   * use a pot wide enough to take the whole flame;  flames that go up the side of the pot are not performing useful work.  Note:  excessively wide pans can overheat the fuel tank of sportster-style stoves (above).
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   * use cold "cooking" techniques like cold brew coffee and refrigerator oatmeal   * use cold "cooking" techniques like cold brew coffee and refrigerator oatmeal
   * use cook-and-coast cooking methods like [[food:cooking:cookware#thermos|thermos cooking]] or "coasting" to cook hard boiled eggs   * use cook-and-coast cooking methods like [[food:cooking:cookware#thermos|thermos cooking]] or "coasting" to cook hard boiled eggs
-  * use electric cooking if [[electrical:shore_power|shore power]] is available or if you have [[electrical:solar:nonessential|excess power]] you have made+  * use electric cooking if [[electrical:shore_power|shore power]] is available or if you have [[electrical:solar:nonessential|excess power]] you have made off-grid
   * boil only the amount of water you will need in the near future   * boil only the amount of water you will need in the near future
   * preheat water and [[food:cooking:cookware|cookware]] by leaving receptacles in the sun   * preheat water and [[food:cooking:cookware|cookware]] by leaving receptacles in the sun
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