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opinion:frater_secessus:self-heated_lifepo4 [2025/06/24 18:36]
frater_secessus [charging cutoff]
opinion:frater_secessus:self-heated_lifepo4 [2025/06/24 18:52] (current)
frater_secessus [backing into a minimum temperature setpoint]
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-=== backing into a minimum temperature setpoint ===+==== backing into a minimum temperature setpoint ====
  
-There are a couple steps here:  reading your cell data sheet, and assessing your maximum charging current ([[electrical:12v:battery_capacity|C]]) rate.+There are two pieces of information needed here:  a datasheet for your cells, and a realistic assessment of your maximum charging current ([[electrical:12v:battery_capacity|C rate]]) under best possible conditions.
  
-== what the datasheet tells us ==+=== what the datasheet tells us ===
  
 The cells inside [[electrical:12v:drop-in_lifepo4|your LFP]] are made of individual cells.  These cells are usually made by a big cell manufacturer, who publish datasheets related to those cells.  You may have to google to find out the actual cells inside your battery, or watch a teardown video.  Then you can google to find the datasheet for those cells.   The cells inside [[electrical:12v:drop-in_lifepo4|your LFP]] are made of individual cells.  These cells are usually made by a big cell manufacturer, who publish datasheets related to those cells.  You may have to google to find out the actual cells inside your battery, or watch a teardown video.  Then you can google to find the datasheet for those cells.  
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-a    +Temp (T)   Charge rate (C) 
-     +<0°C No charging allowed      
-   |   | +0°C  T <10°C 0.1C charge to 80% SOC   |    
-   |   | +10°C  T <15°C 0.2C   |    
-   |   | +15°C  T <45°C 0.5C   |    
-     +45°C  T <55°C 0.2C     
-   |   |+>55°C No charging allowed   |   
  
  
 +=== C rate at full charging power ===
  
 +In secessus' use case his charging can  max out at ~55A((and usually much lower)) with solar and alternator combined.  55A/280Ah = ~**0.2C**.
  
-Temp (T) | Charge rate (C) +=== putting it all together ===
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-<0°C | No charging allowed +
-0°C  T <10°C | 0.1C charge to 80% SOC +
-10°C  T <15°C | 0.2C +
-15°C  T <45°C | 0.5C +
-45°C  T <55°C | 0.2C +
->55°C | No charging allowed +
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-== C rate at full charging power == +
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-== putting it all together == +
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-These are used in a battery where the recommended constant charge rate is ≤0.5[C](https://rvwiki.mousetrap.net/doku.php?id=electrical:12v:battery_capacity).  That amount of current is only acceptable when temps are 15°C  T <45°C.  So in my case if I want to charge at 0.5C I need to keep the bank at least 15°C (~60°F).   In practice I only have ~0.33C of charging grunt so I only need to hold 10°/50°F. +
  
 +Because his charge rate can reach **0.2C** he chose a warming setpoint of **10°C (50°F)**.
  
  
opinion/frater_secessus/self-heated_lifepo4.1750790160.txt.gz · Last modified: 2025/06/24 18:36 by frater_secessus