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rv:ford_transit [2023/08/16 13:30] princess_fluffypants [Ordering a brand-new Van] |
rv:ford_transit [2024/11/11 18:10] (current) princess_fluffypants [Quirks] |
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The stock van offered in North America is RWD, but can be ordered as [[rv:awd|AWD]] from the factory starting with the 2020 model year. It is available in a dual-rear-wheel (DRW) for GVRWs of 9,950lbs and above. | The stock van offered in North America is RWD, but can be ordered as [[rv:awd|AWD]] from the factory starting with the 2020 model year. It is available in a dual-rear-wheel (DRW) for GVRWs of 9,950lbs and above. |
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| Beginning in 2023, Ford began offering a "Trail" package for the AWD Transit, which comes with a 2" factory lift and larger tires that combine to offer a 3.5" increased ride height over the standard van. It comes with an electronic speed limit of 81mph.((https://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/threads/ford-transit-trail-owners-and-future-buyers-81-mph-limiter.97876/#replies)) |
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==== Dimensions ==== | ==== Dimensions ==== |
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[[https://seventrumpet.com/reset-ford-transit-tpms-tire-pressure-sensor-light/|How to reset the tire pressure monitoring system.]] | [[https://seventrumpet.com/reset-ford-transit-tpms-tire-pressure-sensor-light/|How to reset the tire pressure monitoring system.]] |
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| ==== Power Sliding Door Repairs ==== |
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| [[https://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/threads/power-sliding-door-problem.96898/page-2#post-1282217|Experiences on replacing a failed latch]] |
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===== Common Modifications ===== | ===== Common Modifications ===== |
| ==== Disable Marker Lights ==== |
| By default, all of the van marker lights (tail lights, side marker lights, indicators) come on every time a door is opened or closed. This can be problematic for vans that are parked up for a long period of time as camper vans, as it's a drain on the engine batteries (not to mention greatly decreases stealth at night). |
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| Disabling it requires an OBDII reader, along with the [[https://forscan.org/|Forscan software]] to change values in the Body Control Module. Specifically you need to enable "Police Dark Mode" and then "Silent Mode Option", which gives an option in the dash menu to turn on Silent Mode (which turns off the entry/exit lights, along with disabling the chimes). |
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| See the Ford Transit Owners Forum [[https://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/threads/police-dark-car-mode.91914/|thread here]]. You will need the "Extended License" for Forscan in order to write the values (2-month free trial is available at the website). Exact procedure may differ for different model years of vans, but the above is confirmed to work on 2020+ model years. |
==== Tires ==== | ==== Tires ==== |
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Owners have reported mixed results with these tire sizes, with some fitting acceptably and some not. Some owners have reported that the **Toyo Open Country A/T III** or the **Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac** both run slightly narrow, which is advantageous for fitting the DRW rims. [[https://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/threads/drw-tire-sizes-that-fit.19082/|This thread]] and [[https://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/threads/upgrade-tires-on-2015-transit-350-drw.54986/|this other thread]] on the Ford Transit Forums have more information, as well as pictures from owners. | Owners have reported mixed results with these tire sizes, with some fitting acceptably and some not. Some owners have reported that the **Toyo Open Country A/T III** or the **Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac** both run slightly narrow, which is advantageous for fitting the DRW rims. [[https://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/threads/drw-tire-sizes-that-fit.19082/|This thread]] and [[https://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/threads/upgrade-tires-on-2015-transit-350-drw.54986/|this other thread]] on the Ford Transit Forums have more information, as well as pictures from owners. |
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| One of the only aftermarket wheels available for DRW vans is the Method MR901. See [[https://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/threads/falken-wildpeak-at4w-on-transit-drw.98082/|this thread for info and pics]]. |
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The AWD Ford Transit cannot be lifted very much. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFWNUXhv3aw|Van Compass has a good technical overview of exactly why]], but the quick answer is that the CV joint of the passenger side front axle is extremely short and will start to bind when it is moved out of its intended range. This can lead to early (and very expensive) [[https://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/threads/2020-ford-transit-awd-lift-kit-question.81988/post-1067274|failures of the passenger side CV joint]]. Even if the joint is okay, there's some speculation that the boot being constantly flexed closer to the limits of its tolerances [[https://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/threads/inner-cv-boot-damage-susceptibility-upgrades-front-axle-diff-lubricants.89489/#post-1171421|may also lead to early failures]]. The best way to lift an AWD van is with a Subframe Drop, as it mostly eliminates the worries over the CV joint/boot. | The AWD Ford Transit cannot be lifted very much. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFWNUXhv3aw|Van Compass has a good technical overview of exactly why]], but the quick answer is that the CV joint of the passenger side front axle is extremely short and will start to bind when it is moved out of its intended range. This can lead to early (and very expensive) [[https://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/threads/2020-ford-transit-awd-lift-kit-question.81988/post-1067274|failures of the passenger side CV joint]]. Even if the joint is okay, there's some speculation that the boot being constantly flexed closer to the limits of its tolerances [[https://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/threads/inner-cv-boot-damage-susceptibility-upgrades-front-axle-diff-lubricants.89489/#post-1171421|may also lead to early failures]]. The best way to lift an AWD van is with a Subframe Drop, as it mostly eliminates the worries over the CV joint/boot. |
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| Beginning with the 2023 model year, Ford began offering the "Trail" package on the Transit, which comes with a 2" lift via a subframe drop and larger tires from the factory, giving an total 3.5" of lift. It is only available on AWD vans, and adds $10,000 to the base price. |
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The RWD Transit offers more options. There are four different methods of accomplishing a lift, with [[https://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/threads/my-two-cents-on-lift-kits.86177/|varying levels of reliability]]. | The RWD Transit offers more options. There are four different methods of accomplishing a lift, with [[https://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/threads/my-two-cents-on-lift-kits.86177/|varying levels of reliability]]. |
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* **Sub-Frame Drop** | * **Sub-Frame Drop** |
* Cost: [[https://bikerumor.com/vanlife-quigley-4x4-adds-2-lift-kit-for-2wd-awd-ford-transit/|$3,500-$3,700]], including installation. | * Cost: [[https://bikerumor.com/vanlife-quigley-4x4-adds-2-lift-kit-for-2wd-awd-ford-transit/|$3,500-$3,700]], including installation. Beginning with the 2023 model year, this is offered as a factory option (via the "Trail" package) |
* Pros: The only proper way to lift a factory AWD van that will not result in potential damage to the CV joint. The entire suspension system is unchanged, making any potential maintenance or warranty work from Ford much easier to accomplish. Handling will be identical to factory. | * Pros: The only proper way to lift a factory AWD van that will not result in potential damage to the CV joint. The entire suspension system is unchanged, making any potential maintenance or warranty work from Ford much easier to accomplish. Handling will be identical to factory. |
* Cons: Very expensive and still only gives a 2" lift. Needs to be professionally installed by approved installers. Doesn't increase ground clearance in between the front wheels. | * Cons: Very expensive and still only gives a 2" lift. Needs to be professionally installed by approved installers. Doesn't increase ground clearance in between the front wheels. |
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Instructions for removal of the tank and sender for installation of a smaller line can be found here: https://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/threads/espar-m2-b4l-transit-install-standpipe-install-webasto-vs-espar.88175/ | Instructions for removal of the tank and sender for installation of a smaller line can be found here: https://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/threads/espar-m2-b4l-transit-install-standpipe-install-webasto-vs-espar.88175/ |
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| ==== Propane Tank Mount ==== |
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| On the Extended Transit, the area behind the rear diff is a popular place to install a 5.9 gallon propane tank. |
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| [[https://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/threads/propane-tank-mount.88450/|Install thread is here]], and details including schematics to [[https://www.greenstello.com/van/structural/propane-mount/propane-mount/|cut your own mounting bracket are here.]] |
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==== Headliner shelf ==== | ==== Headliner shelf ==== |
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[[https://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/threads/installing-a-rear-sway-bar-for-a-2021-hr-extended-cargo-van.86568/|Thread with info is here.]] | [[https://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/threads/installing-a-rear-sway-bar-for-a-2021-hr-extended-cargo-van.86568/|Thread with info is here.]] |
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| [[https://www.fordtransitusaforum.com/threads/factory-sway-bar-install.91866/|Another good thread here]] |
==== 4-wheel-drive ==== | ==== 4-wheel-drive ==== |
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4-wheel-drive conversions are offered by [[https://quadvan.com/|Quadvan]] or [[https://www.quigley4x4.com/products/ford-transit/|Quigly Vans]]. The Quigly 4WD system has been approved by Ford, and if installed when new Ford will honor the full factory warranty on all non-Quigly components of your van. Expect to pay ~$15,000 to have a stock RWD van converted to 4-wheel-drive. | 4-wheel-drive conversions are offered by [[https://quadvan.com/|Quadvan]] or [[https://www.quigley4x4.com/products/ford-transit/|Quigly Vans]] on 2019 and earlier Transits. They cannot be fit to the 2020 and newer vans, as the 10-speed transmission doesn't give enough room for a proper transfer case. |
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| Expect to pay $15-25,000 to have a stock RWD van converted to 4-wheel-drive. |
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==== Other Modifications ==== | ==== Other Modifications ==== |
* The High Roof model is //really freaking tall// at 9'3" in factory spec. | * The High Roof model is //really freaking tall// at 9'3" in factory spec. |
* This is too tall to fit through most drive throughs. Vans with damages to the front roof line are common due to people smacking them into stuff; make sure to inspect this area very carefully when buying a used van to check for evidence of repairs. | * This is too tall to fit through most drive throughs. Vans with damages to the front roof line are common due to people smacking them into stuff; make sure to inspect this area very carefully when buying a used van to check for evidence of repairs. |
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| * The Transit Trail (available from 2023 onwards) is electronically speed limited to 81mph |
| * This is due to the factory 3.5" lift and off-road oriented tires. |
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* The vans have a high parasitic draw, Ford claims 50ma but some have measured higher. | * The vans have a high parasitic draw, Ford claims 50ma but some have measured higher. |
* The Power Sliding Door (an option from 2020 onward) will close very slowly if left open for more than 2 minutes. This is intentional as a safety decision from Ford. | * The Power Sliding Door (an option from 2020 onward) will close very slowly if left open for more than 2 minutes. This is intentional as a safety decision from Ford. |
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* The Power Sliding Door will not operate if the vehicle battery level drops below ~80% and the van is not running. | * The Power Sliding Door takes a lot of power and can rapidly drain the vehicle battery. |
* This is fairly easy to achieve as the door takes a lot of power, and some owners have reported that it will drain the battery to this level after as few as ~10 cycles with the engine off. Therefor it is //highly// recommended that owners ordering a van with a power sliding door should also order the dual battery option. | * Some owners have reported that it will drain the battery to below the level needed to start the van after as few as ~10 cycles with the engine off. It is //highly// recommended that owners ordering a van with a power sliding door should also order the factory dual battery option. |
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* "The Blobs" | * "The Blobs" |