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camping:dispersed [2021/09/09 16:39] frater_secessus [practical issues] |
camping:dispersed [2022/03/13 19:12] frater_secessus [length of stay] |
===== practical issues ===== | ===== practical issues ===== |
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While dispersed camping usually allows multiple night stays, it is not for squatting or building structures. You are expected to do your recreation then move on. | ==== length of stay ==== |
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==== services, or lack thereof ==== | While dispersed camping usually allows multiple night stays it is **not for squatting or building structures**. You are expected to do your recreation then move on. Check the local district and signage for local regulations. |
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| The most common [[#rules_for_dispersed_camping|rule for dispersed camping in one place]] on BLM, Fish # Wildlife, and other non-NF land is //a 14 day stay in any 28-day period, then mandatory relocation ≥25 miles away//. This means ≥2 sites are required for a rotation, and ≥29 days from Site 1 to Site 1: |
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Assume there will be no [[water:drinking|water]], [[camping:dispersed:trash|trash]], or [[lifestyle:faq_toilet|toilets]] services. There may be no shade, or so much shade no [[electrical:solar:output|solar harvest]] is possible. If you do find a free site with a pit toilet or trash cans use them appropriately and with consideration for others. | * days 1-14 at Site 1 |
| * days 15-28 at Site 2 |
| * days 29 back at Site 1 |
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Open fires and firewood collection may be banned in some places/times. Have a [[food:cooking:stoves|camping stove]] for cooking in case you can't make a fire. | |
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When camping in areas that forbid firewood collection, park well away from fire rings. | In addition, many National Forest districts limit stays in any NF((or NF Ranger district)) to 14d in any **30d** period, so we will need a ≥3 site rotation with ≥31 days from to NF 1 to NF 1. |
[[http://img.mousetrap.net/2020/IMG_20200401_084827.jpg|Nails may be present]] from the burning of wood pallets. | |
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| * days 1-14 at NF 1 |
| * days 15-28 at NF 2 |
| * days 29 - 30 at NF 3 |
| * day 31 - back to NF 1 |
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| ==== services, or lack thereof ==== |
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| Assume there will be no [[water:drinking|water]], [[camping:dispersed:trash|trash]], or [[lifestyle:faq_toilet|toilet]] services. There may be no shade, or so much shade no [[electrical:solar:output|solar harvest]] is possible. If you do find a free site with a pit toilet or trash cans use them appropriately and with consideration for others. |
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| Open fires and firewood collection may be banned in some places/times. Have a [[food:cooking:stoves|camping stove]] for cooking in case you can't make a fire. When camping in areas that forbid firewood collection, park well away from fire rings. |
| [[http://img.mousetrap.net/2020/IMG_20200401_084827.jpg|Nails may be present]] from the burning of wood pallets. |
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| Note: California requires [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLO1eC7RgEk|a free permit]] for fires, including stoves. |
==== timing your arrival ==== | ==== timing your arrival ==== |
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" -- Spaceman Spiff((http://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/Thread-Fear-of-not-finding-a-place-to-camp?pid=304507#pid304507)) | " -- Spaceman Spiff((http://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/Thread-Fear-of-not-finding-a-place-to-camp?pid=304507#pid304507)) |
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To avoid competition from weekenders, try to arrive at new sites mid-week. Arrive early enough in the day that you can see where you are driving and setting up camp. | To avoid competition from weekenders try to arrive at new sites mid-week. Arrive early enough in the day that you can see where you are driving and setting up camp. |
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| ==== elevation ==== |
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| Elevation can be an important part of the decision where to camp, as [[camping:snowbirding#elevation|it affects ambient temperature]]. If the listing you are using does not show elevation you can find approximate elevation on [[https://www.freemaptools.com/elevation-finder.htm|a site like this]]. |
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===== where to boondock ===== | ===== where to boondock ===== |
==== US Bureau of Reclamation ==== | ==== US Bureau of Reclamation ==== |
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The USBR maintains some paid campgrounds. [note: secessus is currently researching the possibility of dispersed camping, but it doesn;t look promising.] | The USBR maintains some paid campgrounds. [note: secessus is currently researching the possibility of dispersed camping, but it doesn;t look promising. -- UPDATE: [[https://freecampsites.net/#!7590&query=sitedetails|Poverty Flats]] is reported to be USBR.] |
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Their [[https://usbr.gov/recreation/overview.html|main site]] says: | Their [[https://usbr.gov/recreation/overview.html|main site]] says: |
===== rules for dispersed camping ===== | ===== rules for dispersed camping ===== |
Rules vary by specific area but these are common: | Rules vary by specific area but these are common: |
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| * 14 day stay, then relocate ≥25 miles away, and do not return for at least 28 days |
* dispersed camping not allowed near (within miles) of any recreational improvement like "campgrounds, picnic areas, or trailheads."((https://www.fs.usda.gov/detailfull/fishlake/recreation/?cid=stelprdb5121831&width=full)) | * dispersed camping not allowed near (within miles) of any recreational improvement like "campgrounds, picnic areas, or trailheads."((https://www.fs.usda.gov/detailfull/fishlake/recreation/?cid=stelprdb5121831&width=full)) |
* talk to local rangers / hosts to see if any special conditions exist | * talk to local rangers / hosts to see if any special conditions exist |
* camping must be [[toilet:self_contained|self-contained]] | |
* practice [[https://lnt.org/learn/7-principles|leave no trace]] camping | * practice [[https://lnt.org/learn/7-principles|leave no trace]] camping |
* camp no further than //n//-hundred feet from a road/trail allowing public motor vehicle use | * camp no further than //n//-hundred feet from a road/trail allowing public motor vehicle use |