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rv:finding [2022/01/14 21:58] princess_fluffypants [Vans to look for] |
rv:finding [2023/06/07 13:41] frater_secessus [Vehicles from salt belt states] |
**Colorado** does not use road salt, relying on gravel instead. Locals advise that cracked windshields from gravel are to be expected.((http://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/Thread-Might-buy-van-in-Denver-possible-altitude-complications?pid=228754#pid228754)) 4x4 campers may be more common in mountainous areas. | **Colorado** does not use road salt, relying on gravel instead. Locals advise that cracked windshields from gravel are to be expected.((http://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/Thread-Might-buy-van-in-Denver-possible-altitude-complications?pid=228754#pid228754)) 4x4 campers may be more common in mountainous areas. |
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Vehicles that have not been on the beach in **California** will be in good condition but will generally be more expensive((http://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/Thread-Which-regions-are-good-for-finding-used-vans-or-RV-s?pid=157213#pid157213)) and older ones may have complex, expensive, and performance-altering CA-specific emissions.((the 49-state car was effectively made moot by EPA adopting CARB-like standards in 2016)). | Vehicles that have not been on the beach in **California** will be in good condition but may be more expensive((http://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/Thread-Which-regions-are-good-for-finding-used-vans-or-RV-s?pid=157213#pid157213)) due to higher cost of living. |
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===== Finding vans ===== | ===== Finding vans ===== |
Once you know geographically where to look the [[communication:internet:search|search]] comes next. | Once you know geographically where to look the [[communication:internet:search|search]] comes next. |
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* [[https://www.craigslist.org/about/sites|craigslist]] is probably the first place folks look. It sequesters results by region, so if you want national results uses something like [[https://www.searchtempest.com/|searchtempest]]. (leverage RSS results to automate the process) | * [[https://www.craigslist.org/about/sites|craigslist]] is probably the first place folks look. It sequesters results by region, so if you want national results uses something like [[https://www.searchtempest.com/|searchtempest]]. (leverage RSS results to automate the process) |
* [[|ebay motors]] lists vehicles, and you can sort by distance from any zipcode, by cost, etc. (leverage saved searches to automate the process) | * Ebay motors - (leverage saved searches to automate the process) |
* [[https://www.autotrader.com/|AutoTrader]], Truck Trader, RV Trader, etc. | * [[https://www.autotrader.com/|AutoTrader]], Truck Trader, RV Trader, etc. |
| * [[https://www.autotempest.com/|Autotempest]] - Aggregates results from many different sites |
* local classifieds | * local classifieds |
* Facebook marketplace | * Facebook marketplace |
* vans you see for sale locally | * vans you see for sale locally |
* truck sales lots will have cargo vans, box trucks, etc. Some [[rv:high_roof|high tops]]. | * truck sales lots will have cargo vans, box trucks, etc. Some [[rv:high_roof|high tops]]. |
| * Government fleet auctions |
| * Police auctions |
* [[https://vandom.co/|vandom.co]] | * [[https://vandom.co/|vandom.co]] |
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===== Vans to look for ===== | ===== Vans to look for ===== |
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The downside is they're usually going to have windows all around (which can reduce security/stealth/insulation) and you'll have to go through the trouble of pulling the seats out. | The downside is they're usually going to have windows all around (which can reduce security/stealth/insulation) and you'll have to go through the trouble of pulling the seats out. |
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===== Vans to rule out ===== | ===== Vans to rule out ===== |
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Also see: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRD3fZnJK_I|Don't buy a lemon]] (yt Bob Wells) | Also see: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRD3fZnJK_I|Don't buy a lemon]] (yt Bob Wells) |
| ==== Untitled vehicles ==== |
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| Untitled vehicles can be nightmares. Here are some questions to ask to avoid this issue: |
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| - "Do you have the title in hand?" |
| - "Does the name on the title match your ID?" |
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==== uninspectable ==== | ==== uninspectable ==== |
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==== Flooded vehicles ==== | ==== Flooded vehicles ==== |
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The free Carfax Flood VIN check will identify flooded vehicles. | In addition to the VIN check above, pay attention to mold/mildew smells. Lift trunk carpet and look for dried mud. |
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Pay attention to mold/mildew smells. Lift trunk carpet and look for mud. | |
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==== Vehicles from salt belt states ==== | ==== Vehicles from salt belt states ==== |
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| Structural rust can cause the vehicle to be uninspectable, unsafe, and possibly unrepairable unless one is willing to apply heroic levels of money and skill. |
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[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_Belt|{{ https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0f/Salt-Belt.svg/300px-Salt-Belt.svg.png|the "Salt Belt"}}]] | [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_Belt|{{ https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0f/Salt-Belt.svg/300px-Salt-Belt.svg.png|the "Salt Belt"}}]] |
[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_Belt|Some states]] in the northeast and northern midwest use salt on the roads to melt ice. | [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_Belt|Some states]] in the northeast and northern midwest use salt on the roads to melt ice. |
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==== Untitled vehicles ==== | |
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Untitled vehicles are nightmares. Here are the magic questions to avoid title nightmares: | |
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- "Do you have the title in hand?" | |
- "Does the name on the title match your ID?" | |
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==== Fixer-Uppers ==== | ==== Fixer-Uppers ==== |