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--- electrical:12v:b2b [2024/05/15 14:05]
frater_secessus [Renogy]
+++ electrical:12v:b2b [2024/06/02 20:28] (current)
frater_secessus [Renogy]
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 See [[electrical:12v:mandatory_dcdc|this companion article]]
+==== triggering / isolation ====
+The general idea is to feed power from the chassis (usually the starter battery) to the house battery **only when the alternator is making power**, and isolate the two from each other when it is not.  The DC-DC will handle this in one of two ways:
+  * **voltage sensing** - watching chassis voltage like [[electrical:12v:alternator#voltage-sensing_relays|a VSR]]
+  * by receiving a **trigger signal** (AKA "D+", "IGN", "ignition", etc) from the chassis:  signal = ON, no signal = OFF.  This method requires the user to find a chassis circuit that has power only when the key is turned.   Caveat:  leaving the key in the ACC ("accessory") position can trick the DC-DC into starting before the engine is running;  so don't do that.
+Product documentation will tell you how the unit is triggered.((sometimes both methods are used together))
 ===== sizing =====
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 === RBC series ===
+NOTE:  there are two distinct versions of the RBC line.  Both appear to have PV input limits higher than 25v found in the older DCC line.  Major differences appear to be:
+  * DS - built-in Bluetooth, support for both 12v/24v banks.  New case.
+  * D1S -  no built-in Bluetooth, 12v banks only.  Uses traditional DCC case.
+== RBC2125DS ==
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 Note:  some manual versions brand this unit as part of the "Rego" line.
-The [[https://www.renogy.com/renogy-12v-24v-ip67-50a-dc-dc-battery-charger-with-mppt/|RBC series 50A charger]] has a 50V PV input limit and built-in bluetooth.  It can also boost 12v panel voltage to charge 24v banks.  A RBC30 is reported to exist.
+This version is for both **12v and 24v banks**.
-The existing [[https://store-fhnch.mybigcommerce.com/content/RBC2125DS-21W/Manual_RENOGY%2012V%2024V%2050A%20Battery%20Charger-2.pdf|manual]] is minimal and specs/behavior are largely undocumented as of Jan 2024.
+The [[https://www.renogy.com/renogy-12v-24v-ip67-50a-dc-dc-battery-charger-with-mppt/|RBC series 50A charger]] has a 50V PV input limit and built-in bluetooth.  It can also boost 12v panel voltage to charge 24v banks.
+>> Ensure that the open circuit voltage of the solar panel/solar panel array does not exceed 50V
+Update:  [[https://store-fhnch.mybigcommerce.com/content/RBC2125DS-21W/Manual_RENOGY%2012V%2024V%2050A%20Battery%20Charger-2.pdf|the manual]] has been updated.
 == solar+alternator behavior ==
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+== RBC30D1S and RBC50D1S ==
+The D**1**S series appears to be a DCC charger with higher PV input limits:
+>> For [the] 30A battery charger, ensure that the working voltage of the solar panel / solar panel array does not exceed **30V**. For [the] 50A battery charger, ensure that the working voltage of the solar panel / solar panel array does not exceed **50V**.
+[[https://www.renogy.com/content/RBC3050D1S-G1/RBC3050D1S-Manual.pdf|manual]]
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-SRNE makes [[https://www.srnesolar.com/product/12v-mppt-solar-dc-charging-controller-50a-md1250n05|30A and 50A combo unit]] similar to the Ring and Kisae. Since SRNE makes things that are rebadged by other sellers it is possible they are the original manufacturers.  The BT dongle appears to be the same as the EpEver and Renogy models.
+SRNE makes [[https://www.srnesolar.com/productdetail/DC-DC-Charge-Controller-MD12V.html|30A and 50A combo unit]] similar to the Ring and Kisae. Since SRNE makes things that are rebadged by other sellers it is possible they are the original manufacturers.  The BT dongle appears to be the same as the EpEver and Renogy models.
   * output rating based on solar.  30A will actually do 35A from alternator, 50A will do 60A.

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