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electrical:solar:overpaneling [2023/04/10 16:34]
frater_secessus [vs. battery bank]
electrical:solar:overpaneling [2024/12/22 11:23] (current)
frater_secessus [vs. charge controller]
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 **Note:**  overpaneling is not //overvolting//, which would be exceeding the maximum input voltage of the charge controller.  Overvolting often results in damage to the controller; it can be caused by linking too many panels in series, or running too close to the voltage max in conditions that raise the panels' Voc.((http://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/Thread-36-volt-solar-panel?pid=144154#pid144154)) **Note:**  overpaneling is not //overvolting//, which would be exceeding the maximum input voltage of the charge controller.  Overvolting often results in damage to the controller; it can be caused by linking too many panels in series, or running too close to the voltage max in conditions that raise the panels' Voc.((http://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/Thread-36-volt-solar-panel?pid=144154#pid144154))
 ===== vs. charge controller ===== ===== vs. charge controller =====
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 +**TL;DR**:  overpaneling the controller means sizing MPPT for //actual// incoming solar power rather than //rated// panel wattage.  
  
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-**Overpaneling**, or having "too much" panel for the rating of your MPPT charge controller, can be desirable in some situations.  It is a **trade-off that biases the setup** to get more power out of normal and marginal conditions at the expense of the peak output during optimal conditions.((sun overhead, clear sky, low temps))  +**Overpaneling**, or having "too much" panel for the rating of your MPPT charge controller, can be desirable in some situations.  It is a **trade-off that biases the setup** to get more power out of normal and marginal conditions at the possible expense of the peak output during optimal conditions.((sun overhead, clear sky, low temps))  
  
 >In car terms, the overpaneled system trades away some of the panels' top-end output for more low- and mid-range grunt. -- secessus >In car terms, the overpaneled system trades away some of the panels' top-end output for more low- and mid-range grunt. -- secessus
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 +==== theory ====
  
-**Example:**  Consider the image to the right.((The image is that of a different PV-related configuration but it works for our purposes.)) The smaller/interior bell curve is the normally paneled configuration. \\ +Consider the image to the right.((The image is that of a different PV-related configuration but it works for our purposes.)) The smaller/interior bell curve is the normally paneled configuration. \\ 
 The larger/exterior curve is the overpaneled configuration. \\   The larger/exterior curve is the overpaneled configuration. \\  
 The striped area is the peak power "clipped" by the controller when the controller is overpaneled.  \\  The striped area is the peak power "clipped" by the controller when the controller is overpaneled.  \\ 
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   * you spend time in partial shade   * you spend time in partial shade
   * you want to use a smaller controller instead of jumping up to the next size.  Example, 43A max output and your choices are 40A or 60A controllers.   * you want to use a smaller controller instead of jumping up to the next size.  Example, 43A max output and your choices are 40A or 60A controllers.
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 +==== example ====
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 +Let's say you want to adhere to Victron's 10-30% overpaneling approach.  Working backwards, their model appears to use 14.2v Vbatt as a constant.  
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 +  * 500w / 14.2v = 35.2A. 
 +  * 35.2A on a 30A MPPT is    17.3% overpaneled:  ( (35.2 - 30) / 30 = 0.173)
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