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Help: the power in my pre-built van doesn't work

This is a difficult problem, since neither you nor the people who want to help you know how your system is put together or what it is designed to do. Coulda/woulda/shoulda1) don't matter right now because you're stuck without power.

Let's see if we can get you on your feet first, then we can worry about doing things the right way.

TL;DR

if it ever worked before and doesn't work now then at least one of these is probably true;

If it's never worked then perhaps

It's also possible that it's working fine but you don't know it. Example: “my charger isn't charging my lithium batteries even though they are not at 100%”.

get a handle on the symptoms

Pay attention to what is happening so you can describe it clearly and accurately to people who want to help but who cannot see your van.

When describing charging/noncharging problems, please report voltage and current changes you observe when any charging sources are added. “My battery monitor shows 12.4v and does not change when I start the engine.”

figure out what you have

I encourage you to make a text document on your phone or PC to hold info on what we find in this section. Not only is it handy for you, but if you ever need help you can paste in the data so we can tell what you've got. win-win

Sources of information:

Personal note: here is my own plaintext list, and a fancier version with commentary. I did not know this off the top of my head – I went through my amazon orders, emails, etc, to gather it all up.

looking up the VIN

A VIN lookup tool can tell you what came stock on the vehicle. If someone upgraded/changed the vehicle after purchase the VIN will not know about that….

You can find a free lookup tool by searching ''[brand] VIN lookup``. Example using Chevy

general approach

It might be overwhelming to try to understand all at once, so start simple. Look around you. What can you see that might be electrical? Can you take and post pics if nothing else?

battery banks

House (“living area”) battery banks are usually large and often the size and shape of the van starter battery you've seen under the hood. There are likely thick red/black cables connecting them to the rest of the system. There may be one or more batteries in the bank, and can be arranged in parallel or series.

solar panels

Solar panels are usually pretty obvious if you have them. They may be mounted on a rack, adhered flat to the roof, or be portables/suitcases that store inside the van. The backside label will show the specs you'll need to know and share. If there is no back label you will need to consult the manufacturer's website or manual.

chargers

We recharge our battery banks almost every day, so there is probably at least one charger present. All chargers have settings of some kind: battery type, charging voltages, etc. Look at your manual to see what the defaults are, and cycle through any displays/apps to see if the configuration differs from those defaults.

In order of most common to least common charging setups:

solar charge controllers

The solar charge controller will have wires coming into it from the solar panels, assuming they are permanently mounted. The other set of wires goes out to the battery bank.

Common brands are Victron, Renogy, EpEver. Morningstar and Blue Sky were premium controllers that are not as common in vans nowadays. There are also many rebranded inexpensive-but-functional controllers from SRNE, BougeRV, Eco-Worthy, etc.

The lowest end of the market is flooded with very cheap controllers (often incorrectly called “MPPT”) in the $10-$20 range. These can work if you understand their limitations.

alternator charging

Alternator charging comes in two basic flavors:

  1. combiners, simple and inexpensive. Includes switches, relays, voltage sensing (“smart”) relays, usually mounted near the starter battery.6) This type of device is basically a pass-through for whatever the battery bank wants / the alternator can give. Often no name on the device at all, although VSR do sometimes carry labels like Stinger, Smart, Battery Doctor, etc.
  2. DC-DC chargers, more complex and costly chargers that can regulate current and/or voltage. Usually mounted quite close to the battery bank. Common brands include Victron Orion, Sterling, Renogy, etc.

combination DC-DC + solar charging

There are are some combo DC_DC / MPPT chargers on the market. The most famous is the Renogy 50A, although the Kisae is increasingly popular.

shore power charging

This is the least common form of charging since few vanfolk have the luxury of access to grid power.

When present, shore power chargers might be RV-style converters from Iota, PowerMax, Progressive, WFCO.

Sometimes people use shore power chargers that might not be made for vans/rvs: Noco, Schumacher, etc.

going forward

Once the crisis is over

  1. adjust your cut/paste parts document anytime you add or change a component
  2. observe the system in normal operation so you know how it should act when everything works
1)
ie, could have identified what was installed before buying it
2)
like batteries
3)
watt-hours
4)
looks like English but the word choice and word order suggest it's translated from Chinese. The vast majority of vandwelling power compenents are made in China.
5)
charging voltage, float voltage, charging amps, etc
6)
possibly under the hood of the vehicle